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    Robin Williams.

    Post by gawa_ram on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 12:10 am

    Dead at 63 - apparent suicide. Shocking.

    Always remember him as Mrs Doubtfire and in Good Morning Vietnam - was great in Good Will Hunting too.

    No link as I'm on my phone but it will probably be on the Beeb etc.
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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by Stockport Ram on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 12:53 am

    The nearest thing America have ever produced to Spike Milligan.

    Few passings engender anything approaching the emotion of an acquaintance.

    A comic genius, and a very fine actor.

    May he rest in peace.



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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by Calif_Ramette on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 12:56 am

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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by RRC on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 1:20 am

    What a damn shame - there are so few original, creative people like Robin Williams.

    He must have been horribly depressed to take his own life, and it's so awful for family
    and friends when someone does that.



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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by New England Ram on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 1:55 am

    The Tears Of A Clown....so sad that somebody associated with so much laughter was himself seemingly so sad...




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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by AlvoRAM on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 2:01 am

    Sad news :(
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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by Charingworth Ram on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 7:15 am

    Cowardly act never any thought for those left behind ??
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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by Boris on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 7:30 am

    Charingworth Ram wrote:Cowardly act never any thought for those left behind ??

    CR, comments like that clearly show you haven't a clue about how depression actually works.....

    Very sad news, RIP.....
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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by Charingworth Ram on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 9:13 am

    Boris wrote:
    Charingworth Ram wrote:Cowardly act never any thought for those left behind ??

    CR, comments like that clearly show you haven't a clue about how depression actually works.....

    Very sad news, RIP.....

    Just my opinion Boris, there is no right or wrong !!
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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by Loughborough Ram on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 9:22 am

    Very sad but I never found him funny personally. If he was on the telly I would invariably swith it off.
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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by Boris on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 9:25 am

    Charingworth Ram wrote:
    Boris wrote:
    Charingworth Ram wrote:Cowardly act never any thought for those left behind ??

    CR, comments like that clearly show you haven't a clue about how depression actually works.....

    Very sad news, RIP.....

    Just my opinion Boris, there is no right or wrong !!

    Sorry CR, there is on this one..do you think Robin Williams had his flip chart out with a felt tip pen and calmly, thinking clearly and logically, methodically logged the pros and cons of committing suicide and then made an informed decision to take his life, do you think that's how it works CR? Mental illness and depression just doesn't work quite like that I'm afraid.....
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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by thatguyfromderby on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 9:28 am

    A tragic loss. RIP. Nano nano.
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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by Charingworth Ram on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 9:37 am

    Boris wrote:
    Charingworth Ram wrote:
    Boris wrote:
    Charingworth Ram wrote:Cowardly act never any thought for those left behind ??

    CR, comments like that clearly show you haven't a clue about how depression actually works.....

    Very sad news, RIP.....

    Just my opinion Boris, there is no right or wrong !!

    Sorry CR, there is on this one..do you think Robin Williams had his flip chart out with a felt tip pen and calmly, thinking clearly and logically, methodically logged the pros and cons of committing suicide and then made an informed decision to take his life, do you think that's how it works CR? Mental illness and depression just doesn't work quite like that I'm afraid.....

    It may have been the drugs & booze which fucked his head up and not the depression, no one made him take them did they!!
    Always makes me laugh when folks act like they know him when offering condolences
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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by prideParkhead on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 12:11 pm

    Sad news. Some people can live with depression but unfortunately too many end up taking their own lives. My personal favourite films of his were The Fisher King and Jumanji. Never liked Mork and Mindy though, particularly the morality lecture at the end of each episode!
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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by Hectors House on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 12:48 pm

    Boris wrote:
    Charingworth Ram wrote:
    Boris wrote:
    Charingworth Ram wrote:Cowardly act never any thought for those left behind ??

    CR, comments like that clearly show you haven't a clue about how depression actually works.....

    Very sad news, RIP.....

    Just my opinion Boris, there is no right or wrong !!

    Sorry CR, there is on this one..do you think Robin Williams had his flip chart out with a felt tip pen and calmly, thinking clearly and logically, methodically logged the pros and cons of committing suicide and then made an informed decision to take his life, do you think that's how it works CR? Mental illness and depression just doesn't work quite like that I'm afraid.....


    I dont know the circumstances around his life/lifestyle/mental health state/ so i wouldnt make a comment either way
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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by Mucker1884 on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 12:52 pm

    Boris wrote:
    Charingworth Ram wrote:
    Boris wrote:
    Charingworth Ram wrote:Cowardly act never any thought for those left behind ??

    CR, comments like that clearly show you haven't a clue about how depression actually works.....

    Very sad news, RIP.....

    Just my opinion Boris, there is no right or wrong !!

    Sorry CR, there is on this one..do you think Robin Williams had his flip chart out with a felt tip pen and calmly, thinking clearly and logically, methodically logged the pros and cons of committing suicide and then made an informed decision to take his life, do you think that's how it works CR? Mental illness and depression just doesn't work quite like that I'm afraid.....



    I'm with Chaz on this...

    Not that suicide is a cowardly act, you understand. I don't agree with that, generally!
    But I do agree that he (Chaz) gave an opinion... his opinion... to which he's entitled, of course. How can his opinion be wrong? It''s an opinion!!


    ... And before you reply, Boris, I know of one person that committed suicide after admitting he "Didn't have the courage to carry on"... His words, not mine! That pretty much sums up a coward, unless I'm very much mistaken?

    Please don't ask for further details, Boris... I'd rather back down, and announce you the winner of yet another argument.  ;) :fb11: 
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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by Angus on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 1:02 pm

    Like Luffy, it was off switch for me if he came on, don't like American TV.

    If it was proper depression it is horrible, some come through it some can't see a path forward, like this guy.

    For me to avoid drugs and medicine is key, they are not going to solve depression, not sure about councellors you don't know either. Complex issue it really is horrendous.
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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by Boris on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 1:13 pm

    Mucker1884 wrote:
    Boris wrote:
    Charingworth Ram wrote:
    Boris wrote:
    Charingworth Ram wrote:Cowardly act never any thought for those left behind ??

    CR, comments like that clearly show you haven't a clue about how depression actually works.....

    Very sad news, RIP.....

    Just my opinion Boris, there is no right or wrong !!

    Sorry CR, there is on this one..do you think Robin Williams had his flip chart out with a felt tip pen and calmly, thinking clearly and logically, methodically logged the pros and cons of committing suicide and then made an informed decision to take his life, do you think that's how it works CR? Mental illness and depression just doesn't work quite like that I'm afraid.....



    I'm with Chaz on this...

    Not that suicide is a cowardly act, you understand.  I don't agree with that, generally!
    But I do agree that he (Chaz) gave an opinion... his opinion... to which he's entitled, of course.  How can his opinion be wrong?  It''s an opinion!!


    ... And before you reply, Boris, I know of one person that committed suicide after admitting he "Didn't have the courage to carry on"... His words, not mine!  That pretty much sums up a coward, unless I'm very much mistaken?

    Please don't ask for further details, Boris... I'd rather back down, and announce you the winner of yet another argument.   ;) :fb11: 

    I won't go in to the complex issue of depression/mental health with you Mucker, don't think it would serve any purpose, if you think suicide is a cowardly thing that's your right...sorry about your friend.....
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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by Mucker1884 on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 1:41 pm

    I didn't say he was a friend. I said "I knew of him"!

    Yer see... yer NEVER listen!!  :lol!: ;) 

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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by AlvoRAM on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 1:56 pm

    Is it cowardly to cause a load of crap, then take your own life to escape any other possible consequences? Yes Sir.

    Is it cowardly to feel so depressed that you feel there is no reason to live on? debatable, although I'd say that it was not cowardly.

    Is it cowardly to feel like there is nobody listening or helping you when you need it most, and the only way to get that attention is to harm yourself? Again I'd say it was not, but I can see that it could be open for debate.

    My point is, that there are lots of different reasons people take their own lives, in lots of different circumstances. To generalise and say 'its cowardly' could be construed as a little ignorant, in my opinion of course, and with the greatest of respect.  :fb11: 

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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by New England Ram on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 2:09 pm

    Not sure I have seen such a out pouring for a celebrity death for a long time...
    It's sad because with the odd exception or two  ;)  he made a lot of people laugh.
    And Lord knows this bloody world needs all the laughter it can get right now.



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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by Charingworth Ram on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 2:46 pm

    He should have called orson if he needed to talk to someone!!
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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by Mucker1884 on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 3:44 pm

    Boris wrote:

    I won't go in to the complex issue of depression/mental health with you Mucker, don't think it would serve any purpose...

    Why do you have to be so condescending all the time?  It's such a fuck-ugly trait!  
    And where did I mention depression/mental health?  That has no bearing on what I was discussing!





    Boris wrote:

    ... if you think suicide is a cowardly thing that's your right.....

    Where on Earth did I say that?  I said that that one  particular person was cowardly, imo.  Mainly because he admitted he was, to my face  (or rather, that he was about to be).  I specifically said that generally speaking, I DID NOT AGREE THAT SUICIDE WAS A COWARDLY ACT!!.  

    Jesus fuckin' H, Boris... when will you start reading other folks' posts??  🇳🇴

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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by AlvoRAM on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 3:50 pm

    Charingworth Ram wrote:He should have called orson if he needed to talk to someone!!

     :doh: 

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    Re: Robin Williams.

    Post by Boris on Tue 12 Aug 2014, 3:57 pm

    Mucker1884 wrote:
    Boris wrote:

    I won't go in to the complex issue of depression/mental health with you Mucker, don't think it would serve any purpose...

    Why do you have to be so condescending all the time?  It's such a fuck-ugly trait!  
    And where did I mention depression/mental health?  That has no bearing on what I was discussing!





    Boris wrote:

    ... if you think suicide is a cowardly thing that's your right.....

    Where on Earth did I say that?  I said that that one  particular person was cowardly, imo.  Mainly because he admitted he was, to my face  (or rather, that he was about to be).  I specifically said that generally speaking, I DID NOT AGREE THAT SUICIDE WAS A COWARDLY ACT!!.  

    Jesus fuckin' H, Boris... when will you start reading other folks' posts??  🇳🇴

    Mucker, go do one...we never agree on anything and your constant digs, personal abuse/vendetta, some totally over the top and uncalled for which should have been dealt with by the Moderators some time ago are just pathetic to be honest. I am no longer going to respond to any of your posts, perhaps it would be good for the forum if you did likewise with mine....

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