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    Re: The top six

    Post by New England Ram on Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:09 am

    That's why I said who WOULD have picked this top six Mace Wink
    Surely your not insinuating the good folk would adjust their answers LOL



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    Re: The top six

    Post by Stockport Ram on Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:10 am

    When those who have no knowledge of the Championship (ie: most Manure fans, my esteemed Son is the exception - he knows almost as much about Derby as I do, bless him) were asking me about my promotion tips in August, I said (in order) Watford, Middlesbro' and Wolves.

    Ipswich didn't really enter my head, nor did Bournemouth.
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    Re: The top six

    Post by New England Ram on Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:18 pm

    Halfway game next...........it really seems to be shaping up into one of those seasons where if you blink at the wrong time it could be the difference between top two or seventh or eighth.



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    Re: The top six

    Post by rjrules71 on Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:49 am

    That point yesterday albeit lucky, has had the effect of opening up a small gap, between the top six.

    Of those six we have some tough fixtures, though Brentford and Dipswitch could turn out to be very decisive as well.
    All you can do, as Mac says, is concentrate on winning the next game, the rest will sort itself out.

    I think we need to remember what a top job Mac has done with this squad, and I am well happy with our position at the turn.
    Right up with the pack and start the New Year with renewed vigour. COYR Clapping



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    Re: The top six

    Post by MadAmster on Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:20 am

    Said it before and I'll say it again, we have to match opposition that play 1442 and press and harry. Best way top do that is go 1442 ourselves in those games.



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    Re: The top six

    Post by RRC on Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:53 pm

    MadAmster wrote:Said it before and I'll say it again, we have to match opposition that play 1442 and press and harry. Best way top do that is go 1442 ourselves in those games.

    That may or may not be true, but what is certain is that doing more of the same when we're
    being kept quiet or being outplayed isn't working and probably never will against a good team.

    The lack of another proper striker is a problem. Bamford may not have been outstanding last
    season but he offered something different that Best can't provide.

    When fit, I'd like to see Ward alongside Martin because he has decent control in tight
    situations and does score well. Ibe looks like the best alternative, because he's got a good
    strike rate. Also he tends to make the wrong decisions when played wide whereas it's
    obvious what he needs to do in front of goal.

    BTW we're all tending to blame the defence for our failures but a look at last season
    after 22 games seems to tell a different story -

    last season F-A 46-28
    this season F-A 40-23

    Are we not creating as many chances or are we not taking them?

    Another point - we're doing worse against teams in the lower half of the table this season.
    Any idea why? TBH I don't fancy our chances against Brum.



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    Re: The top six

    Post by rob on Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:42 am

    niether do I they are a team transformed whilst we are in a sticky patch - this comment annoyed me - sounds a bit like a Clough post match statement

    "To get the players up for it emotionally was always going to be difficult. I was always wary of this game - against a very good Norwich team by the way who can bring on Nathan Redmond, Wes Hoolahan and Lewis Grabban. Wow, what a squad.

    We keep being told this is the best Rams squad in years - if you cant motivate yourself in a tight promotion race then you should be nowhere near the team in my opinion FFS 99.999999999999% of people would give everything to "work" as hard as bloody footballers.
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    Re: The top six

    Post by Ram78 on Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:00 am



    Another point - we're doing worse against teams in the lower half of the table this season.
    Any idea why? TBH I don't fancy our chances against Brum.[/quote]

    Rowett also knows a lot about Derby and how we play after being down the road for a while
    Lower table results seem to be the frustrate derby in there play then hit us with a goal and frustrate again, upper league maybe there playing football? And maybe have more confidence in there play which allows us to play
    Maybe it's just this bloody championship where anyone can beat anybody, except Blackpool.....



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    Re: The top six

    Post by chicken on Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:31 am

    Well I fancy our chances against anybody. I'm not worried.
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    Re: The top six

    Post by ShardlowSheep on Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:12 pm

    chicken wrote:Well I fancy our chances against anybody.  I'm not worried.
    me too still very confident of promotion.
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    Re: The top six

    Post by DavesaRam on Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:35 pm

    All teams have a rough spell -we've decided to have ours for Christmas!

    So its "Happy New Year " You Rams!



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    Re: The top six

    Post by New England Ram on Fri Dec 26, 2014 1:54 pm

    Ipswich making a mess of Brentford right now Afraid Afraid



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    Re: The top six

    Post by New England Ram on Sun Dec 28, 2014 4:11 pm

    **** off Bournemouth.......just keep winning.



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    Re: The top six

    Post by New England Ram on Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:05 pm

    Boro and Brentford dropped points....don't like playing after everyone else increases the pressure a little.
    But bottom line...we need to keep winning.



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    Re: The top six

    Post by chicken on Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:41 pm

    We're nicely placed.
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    Re: The top six

    Post by New England Ram on Sun Dec 28, 2014 5:45 pm

    chicken wrote:We're nicely placed.
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    Re: The top six

    Post by Angus on Sun Dec 28, 2014 7:05 pm

    chicken wrote:We're nicely placed.

    Are we? Everton linked to Mac and have lost again today. Doesn't surprise me it was bound to happen at some point, Martinez has to be one of the biggest bluffers in football as well.
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    Re: The top six

    Post by New England Ram on Sun Dec 28, 2014 7:17 pm

    Angus wrote:
    chicken wrote:We're nicely placed.

    Are we? Everton linked to Mac and have lost again today. Doesn't surprise me it was bound to happen at some point, Martinez has to be one of the biggest bluffers in football as well.

    Better placed than we were last year so I would say we are.
    Would be a big shock if Kenwright hit the panic button especially as his previous manager had plenty of bad runs in his tenure.

    And Swansea are in the premier league off the back of what Martinez started there.
    I would imagine if you asked Wigan fans about him being the biggest bluffer they would disagree with you.
    Even after being relegated......a FA Cup win over one of the richest clubs in football not to be sniffed at.
    Pretty bloody popular with his players as well.



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    Re: The top six

    Post by Stockport Ram on Sun Dec 28, 2014 7:42 pm

    Martinez rescued that twonk Jenkins from League one mediocrity, and Rogers has ensured that the right type of football is played on both sides of the best footballing duopoly in England.


    I would be amazed if Roberto leaves his job before Brendan.

    More importantly, I recall Eric Steele having a sharp word with the opportunist "Mac" last season, saying "We have started something here, which we need to finish".


    I like Schteeve, but I have much more time and respect for both Eric and Simmo.

    This is his first real test. I think he will succeed.
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    Re: The top six

    Post by Angus on Sun Dec 28, 2014 7:51 pm

    New England Ram wrote:
    Angus wrote:
    chicken wrote:We're nicely placed.

    Are we? Everton linked to Mac and have lost again today. Doesn't surprise me it was bound to happen at some point, Martinez has to be one of the biggest bluffers in football as well.

    Better placed than we were last year so I would say we are.
    Would be a big shock if Kenwright hit the panic button especially as his previous manager had plenty of bad runs in his tenure.

    And Swansea are in the premier league off the back of what Martinez started there.
    I would imagine if you asked Wigan fans about him being the biggest bluffer they would disagree with you.
    Even after being relegated......a FA Cup win over one of the richest clubs in football not to be sniffed at.
    Pretty bloody popular with his players as well.

    Kenwright isn't the main man anymore, silly season in football will break out, Warnock is first out there will be others, where who knows.

    Martinez though is a lucky boy to get a top job having relegated his previous team and other than Rogers talks more bull than any other manager. For under performance he is right up there.
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    Post by Angus on Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:05 pm

    Stockport Ram wrote:Martinez rescued that twonk Jenkins from League one mediocrity, and Rogers has ensured that the right type of football is played on both sides of the best footballing duopoly in England.


    I would be amazed if Roberto leaves his job before Brendan.

    More importantly, I recall Eric Steele having a sharp word with the opportunist "Mac" last season, saying "We have started something here, which we need to finish".


    I like Schteeve, but I have much more time and respect for both Eric and Simmo.

    This is his first real test. I think he will succeed.

    If Eric or Simmo moved on we could cope, if Steve did what he has done many times before, move to a more prestigious role I don't believe we have a prayer of finding a leader of that calibre.

    It really is the threat to our current resurgence. I hope that sentiment you quote is the way Steve sees things but if a role at a bigger club comes up the odds are he would do what he did in 99.
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    Re: The top six

    Post by New England Ram on Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:29 pm

    Angus wrote:
    New England Ram wrote:
    Angus wrote:
    chicken wrote:We're nicely placed.

    Are we? Everton linked to Mac and have lost again today. Doesn't surprise me it was bound to happen at some point, Martinez has to be one of the biggest bluffers in football as well.

    Better placed than we were last year so I would say we are.
    Would be a big shock if Kenwright hit the panic button especially as his previous manager had plenty of bad runs in his tenure.

    And Swansea are in the premier league off the back of what Martinez started there.
    I would imagine if you asked Wigan fans about him being the biggest bluffer they would disagree with you.
    Even after being relegated......a FA Cup win over one of the richest clubs in football not to be sniffed at.
    Pretty bloody popular with his players as well.

    Kenwright isn't the main man anymore, silly season in football will break out, Warnock is first out there will be others, where who knows.

    Martinez though is a lucky boy to get a top job having relegated his previous team and other than Rogers talks more bull than any other manager. For under performance he is right up there.

    So who is the main man then if not Kenwright ?



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    Re: The top six

    Post by chicken on Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:54 pm

    Angus wrote:
    chicken wrote:We're nicely placed.

    Are we? Everton linked to Mac and have lost again today. Doesn't surprise me it was bound to happen at some point, Martinez has to be one of the biggest bluffers in football as well.

    So what?



    If you think we're in a poor position that's up to you, although I would suggest a visit to the head doctors quickly.  Also if you think we're a poor team I would suggest two visits to the doctors.

    You seem to want things to go badly which is quite strange for someone claiming to be a fan.


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    Re: The top six

    Post by chicken on Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:56 pm

    chicken wrote:Well I fancy our chances against anybody.  I'm not worried.


    I repeat this.
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    Re: The top six

    Post by Stockport Ram on Sun Dec 28, 2014 8:58 pm

    Angus wrote:
    Stockport Ram wrote:Martinez rescued that twonk Jenkins from League one mediocrity, and Rogers has ensured that the right type of football is played on both sides of the best footballing duopoly in England.


    I would be amazed if Roberto leaves his job before Brendan.

    More importantly, I recall Eric Steele having a sharp word with the opportunist "Mac" last season, saying "We have started something here, which we need to finish".


    I like Schteeve, but I have much more time and respect for both Eric and Simmo.

    This is his first real test. I think he will succeed.

    If Eric or Simmo moved on we could cope, if Steve did what he has done many times before, move to a more prestigious role I don't believe we have a prayer of finding a leader of that calibre.

    It really is the threat to our current resurgence. I hope that sentiment you quote is the way Steve sees things but if a role at a bigger club comes up the odds are he would do what he did in 99.

    Sadly, Angus, I agree in all respects.

    My comment about respect and time for the relevant individuals still stands, and my inkling is that you don't disagree.

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