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    FIFA Arrests

    Post by Boris on Wed 27 May 2015, 7:44 am

    No great surprise really..

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32895057
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    Post by Loughborough Ram on Wed 27 May 2015, 8:23 am

    If only Blatter was one of them. I wonder whether this is designed to disrupt his imminent re election and make people woder about voting for him.
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    Post by ShardlowSheep on Wed 27 May 2015, 8:42 am

    Hopefully some of the corruption will be cleared up and dealt with but until the God Father, Blatter, is removed it will continue.
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    Post by Hectors House on Wed 27 May 2015, 8:43 am

    Maybe its all the people who where going to vote against him Whistle
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    Post by MadAmster on Wed 27 May 2015, 11:52 am

    As far as I know the US FA is one of the FAs which back Blatter. It is the USA that asked the Swiss for the arrest and extradition of those incarcerated. Might the arrests change the US FAs minds?

    Blatter has not yet been arrested. Will that situation so remain? We will have to wait and see.



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    Post by chicken on Wed 27 May 2015, 12:18 pm

    UEFA: "Astonished and saddened by the events which have taken place earlier today in Zurich".


    Why are they astonished? It seems the rest of the footballing world aren't.
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    Post by LeedsRam on Wed 27 May 2015, 12:38 pm

    Apparently FIFA representatives are astonished that it is hot in Qatar in June, that grass is green and that the sky is blue. Astonishing.
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    Post by RRC on Wed 27 May 2015, 12:49 pm

    I watched the FIFA press conference earlier today. They're scrambling to cast themselves
    as the good guys, saying they handed over the full FIFA Ethics Committee report (the one
    that was heavily edited for publication by a German judge) to the FBI. One of those
    arrested was a member of the Ethics Committee. Jumped before they were pushed?

    The FIFA PR spokesman said that those arrested would be able to vote in the upcoming
    election for FIFA president if they were present and they couldn't be suspended from
    FIFA unless they were convicted.

    The arrests for the purposes of extradition, made at the request of the US Justice Department,
    only concern transactions made in dollars and/or via US banks. The FBI also have an insider
    informant in ex-FIFA official Chuck Blazer (link to Wiki), who has pleaded guilty on lots of charges.
    The US tax authority (IRS) is also likely to get involved in future - a bit like the way they
    caught Al Capone via tax evasion perhaps and rather apt.

    None of this affects corruption outside US jurisdiction. However the Swiss police did take
    away bags of documents when they made the arrests this morning and there is a separate
    ongoing Swiss investigation into money laundering, mismanagement etc.

    It must be a safe bet that Mr Blatter had more than enough time to bury anything that
    might be linked to him and that he won't see any need to go down with his sinking ship.



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    Post by Mitten State Ram on Wed 27 May 2015, 3:32 pm

    I wish the FAs of the eight-ish most important footballing nations would just disaffiliate from FIFA and start their own World Cup, committing to never play it anywhere hot and/or under-developed. But of course they won't, because would be sensible/'racist'.



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    Post by rob on Wed 27 May 2015, 5:25 pm

    Too much money to be made from corrupt governments in "emerging markets" - why do you think there is an Asian premiershite trophy rotated around Thailand, Malaysia and Hong Kong - not for altruistic aims that is for sure - just the shed load of cash on offer - mid season "friendlies" in the arab states as well

    Even if Blatter goes I feel it will be "meet the new boss same as the old boss" - our FA are hardly paragons of virtue are they - they protect their interests over the good of the game as a whole (see construction of new wemberley)
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    Post by bramhallram on Wed 27 May 2015, 5:25 pm

    Stop Press:

    The whirring and clunking sound coming from the basement at FIFA HQ all day has finally been identified as an industrial-strength paper shredder being run at top speed by a little bald man with shifty eyes and a worried expression.

    A dishevelled and ink-stained Sepp Blatter was later spotted climbing out of a bathroom window on the second floor of the same building but was unavailable for comment.

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    Post by Calif_Ramette on Wed 27 May 2015, 6:07 pm

    I know there was no one in CONCACAF who thought Jack Warner was nothing but a corrupt, lying pos and we are all glad to see his ass arrested. With the RICO powers the US has this is going to get ugly and I have to wonder how long it will take for one or more of the arrested to flip on Blatter.
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    Post by purpleram on Wed 27 May 2015, 8:42 pm

    God bless America, where was the rest of the world when this industrial sized corruption was taking place.

    At least the FA tried, even if it was a half assed try, to sort him out.

    Completely gutless response by the rest of the world.
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    Post by Calif_Ramette on Wed 27 May 2015, 10:49 pm

    purpleram wrote:God bless America, where was the rest of the world when this industrial sized corruption was taking place.

    At least the FA tried, even if it was a half assed try, to sort him out.

    Completely gutless response by the rest of the world.

    I think it helps that football is not the number one sport in America, this would never happen with the NFL. The luck of it being a little lower on the totem pole helps and like I said with the RICO laws they have put away mobsters, these guys stand no chance.
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    Post by New England Ram on Thu 28 May 2015, 1:09 am

    Our own domestic league is topped by a division that is all about the mighty $$$$$ or pounds.
    Its hypocrisy for the authorities in our game to be pointing fingers at crooked FIFA shisters...games a fraud.



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    Post by Loughborough Ram on Thu 28 May 2015, 8:17 am

    UEFA and the USA should grasp the nettle today and withdraw from tomorrows vote and threaten to withdraw from future world cups because sponsors such as Visa, Coca Cola and MacDonalds are alledgedly considering their support. So any move from the biggest commercial markets would surely push them over the edge and leave Blatter in an untenable position, even for somebody with his houdini skills.
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    Post by MadAmster on Thu 28 May 2015, 3:14 pm

    This all stems from FIFA watering down the report of that US attorney into a 42 page whitewash. he was so angered that he fot on to the people in power in the US and told them the full story. Probably also handed them the unedited report as well. They took the baton over and ran with it. Blatter hasn't been arrested...... yet.

    The US says more arrests are expected. In all honesty, even if he wasn't personally involved, there is no way in Hell that Blatter didn't know it was going on. he failed to do anything about it. That makes him an accomplice after the fact at the very least. IMHO, if the US authorities let this run its course then Blatter will be in court, either on complicity charges or the real deal.

    If he gets re-elected then UEFA should resign from FIFA. FIFA's major sponsors would be right on their coattails.



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    Post by RRC on Thu 28 May 2015, 3:51 pm

    MadAmster wrote:This all stems from FIFA watering down the report of that US attorney into a 42 page whitewash. he was so angered that he fot on to the people in power in the US and told them the full story. Probably also handed them the unedited report as well. They took the baton over and ran with it. Blatter hasn't been arrested...... yet.

    The US says more arrests are expected. In all honesty, even if he wasn't personally involved, there is no way in Hell that Blatter didn't know it was going on. he failed to do anything about it. That makes him an accomplice after the fact at the very least. IMHO, if the US authorities let this run its course then Blatter will be in court, either on complicity charges or the real deal.

    If he gets re-elected then UEFA should resign from FIFA. FIFA's major sponsors would be right on their coattails.

    Unless there is evidence that Blatter has committed offences in the USA, he won't be
    charged by the Americans. I can't imagine he's been daft enough to do that and leave
    enough evidence for a successful prosecution.

    More likely the Swiss investigation could find evidence of "mismanagement" by Blatter
    and the FIFA Executive Committee in connection with awarding the World Cups to Russia
    and Qatar. Obviously they haven't got strong enough evidence yet because they haven't
    interviewed Blatter. They don't need to arrest him anyway because he's a Swiis national
    and they've already told FIFA's Swiss staff not to leave the country.



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    Post by ShardlowSheep on Thu 28 May 2015, 5:08 pm

    Blatter still reckons he cannot be held responsible. The bloke is totally awful how an earth can he claim he is not responsible. It is crazy that the vote is still going ahead tomorrow.
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    Post by chicken on Thu 28 May 2015, 5:40 pm

    The Asian Football Federation oppose any delay in the elections and are going to be voting for Sepp Blatter.

    http://asiancorrespondent.com/133199/asian-football-federation-backs-blatter-wants-fifa-elections-friday/
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    Post by Calif_Ramette on Thu 28 May 2015, 6:49 pm

    RRC wrote:
    MadAmster wrote:This all stems from FIFA watering down the report of that US attorney into a 42 page whitewash. he was so angered that he fot on to the people in power in the US and told them the full story. Probably also handed them the unedited report as well. They took the baton over and ran with it. Blatter hasn't been arrested...... yet.

    The US says more arrests are expected. In all honesty, even if he wasn't personally involved, there is no way in Hell that Blatter didn't know it was going on. he failed to do anything about it. That makes him an accomplice after the fact at the very least. IMHO, if the US authorities let this run its course then Blatter will be in court, either on complicity charges or the real deal.

    If he gets re-elected then UEFA should resign from FIFA. FIFA's major sponsors would be right on their coattails.

    Unless there is evidence that Blatter has committed offences in the USA, he won't be
    charged by the Americans. I can't imagine he's been daft enough to do that and leave
    enough evidence for a successful prosecution.

    More likely the Swiss investigation could find evidence of "mismanagement" by Blatter
    and the FIFA Executive Committee in connection with awarding the World Cups to Russia
    and Qatar. Obviously they haven't got strong enough evidence yet because they haven't
    interviewed Blatter. They don't need to arrest him anyway because he's a Swiis national
    and they've already told FIFA's Swiss staff not to leave the country.

    If they can link him to any bank account or bank transfer to the US that is all they will need to bring charges against him. Whether he was smart enough to avoid the US banking system all together is another question.
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    Post by chicken on Thu 28 May 2015, 6:52 pm

    Seems someone has some morals.

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9867641/david-gill-to-reject-fifas-executive-committee-if-sepp-blatter-is-re-elected
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    Post by MadAmster on Thu 28 May 2015, 7:49 pm

    RRC wrote:
    MadAmster wrote:This all stems from FIFA watering down the report of that US attorney into a 42 page whitewash. he was so angered that he fot on to the people in power in the US and told them the full story. Probably also handed them the unedited report as well. They took the baton over and ran with it. Blatter hasn't been arrested...... yet.

    The US says more arrests are expected. In all honesty, even if he wasn't personally involved, there is no way in Hell that Blatter didn't know it was going on. he failed to do anything about it. That makes him an accomplice after the fact at the very least. IMHO, if the US authorities let this run its course then Blatter will be in court, either on complicity charges or the real deal.

    If he gets re-elected then UEFA should resign from FIFA. FIFA's major sponsors would be right on their coattails.

    Unless there is evidence that Blatter has committed offences in the USA, he won't be
    charged by the Americans. I can't imagine he's been daft enough to do that and leave
    enough evidence for a successful prosecution.

    More likely the Swiss investigation could find evidence of "mismanagement" by Blatter
    and the FIFA Executive Committee in connection with awarding the World Cups to Russia
    and Qatar. Obviously they haven't got strong enough evidence yet because they haven't
    interviewed Blatter. They don't need to arrest him anyway because he's a Swiis national
    and they've already told FIFA's Swiss staff not to leave the country.

    I hear what you are saying RRC but I have read nothing to change my mind. Either he was involved or at some point he became aware of it and did nothing to stop it. Either way he will face some difficult questions at some time in the future.

    If he knew absolutely nothing about what was going on then he is unfit for office. Just saying.



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    Post by Stockport Ram on Thu 28 May 2015, 8:08 pm

    Its a good job FIFA didn't try and tap up Steve McClaren for a job, or this board would never have stopped buzzing......
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    Post by Stockport Ram on Thu 28 May 2015, 8:14 pm

    MadAmster wrote:
    RRC wrote:
    MadAmster wrote:This all stems from FIFA watering down the report of that US attorney into a 42 page whitewash. he was so angered that he fot on to the people in power in the US and told them the full story. Probably also handed them the unedited report as well. They took the baton over and ran with it. Blatter hasn't been arrested...... yet.

    The US says more arrests are expected. In all honesty, even if he wasn't personally involved, there is no way in Hell that Blatter didn't know it was going on. he failed to do anything about it. That makes him an accomplice after the fact at the very least. IMHO, if the US authorities let this run its course then Blatter will be in court, either on complicity charges or the real deal.

    If he gets re-elected then UEFA should resign from FIFA. FIFA's major sponsors would be right on their coattails.

    Unless there is evidence that Blatter has committed offences in the USA, he won't be
    charged by the Americans. I can't imagine he's been daft enough to do that and leave
    enough evidence for a successful prosecution.

    More likely the Swiss investigation could find evidence of "mismanagement" by Blatter
    and the FIFA Executive Committee in connection with awarding the World Cups to Russia
    and Qatar. Obviously they haven't got strong enough evidence yet because they haven't
    interviewed Blatter. They don't need to arrest him anyway because he's a Swiis national
    and they've already told FIFA's Swiss staff not to leave the country.

    I hear what you are saying RRC but I have read nothing to change my mind. Either he was involved or at some point he became aware of it and did nothing to stop it. Either way he will face some difficult questions at some time in the future.

    If he knew absolutely nothing about what was going on then he is unfit for office. Just saying.



    Competely agree MA. The trouble is that Africa still see him as their saviour, and "vested interests" there will vote for him en bloc.

    He should get enough votes to get over the line, sadly.


    The worrying thing is that UEFA and Australia should have enough nous to know that, so would have been better off boycotting the whole shambles IMHO, until the crossfire has completely settled - and hopefully taken down its biggest victim.


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