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    Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by derbygee on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 3:38 pm

    Play off spot maybe but if Keogh stays and remains captain not even that I'm afraid.

    Unless we really do something special at the player shop in the next couple of weeks I don't think our defence is anywhere near good enough to get us promoted.
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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by CornwallRam on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 3:54 pm

    Paul Clement is an unknown quantity at present. He could be the new José Mourinho or he could just as easily be the new Colin Murphy. I'm also not convinced by the club structure, which effectively reduces the manager/head coach's ability to select his own players. Given my misgivings, I'll be happy to finish in the top half, but probably expect us to be around 10th.
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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by swadieram on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 4:37 pm

    Automatic if Keogh gone
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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by thatguyfromderby on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 4:50 pm

    With the current squad.. I'm going to say automatic. We have practically the same squad as last season, who sat top with 2 months remaining. Tactical inflexibility destroyed our season. We've also strengthened, and should have George Thorne.
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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by Mitten State Ram on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 4:50 pm

    If we can sign Shackell & Ince, keep hold of Martin and Hughes, and no one too important sustains major injury I don't see how this isn't among the most talented few squads in the division. Winning the division isn't an unrealistic hope.

    Bugger knows if it will happen though. That, as they say, is why they play the games.
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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by Mucker1884 on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 5:03 pm

    As it stands right now, I think we'll have to settle for 2nd.
    If we strengthen the back line with experience, (Hopefully Shackle at least), get Ince, and GT gets a decent run, I can't see us doing anything but ROMP IT!

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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by Stockport Ram on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 5:47 pm

    I have no idea.

    I thought we were in a false position in February - we were nowhere near as consistent as we were in the previous season - so I'm not sure if the team is scarred or has been simply poorly managed.

    We still need a class CH, a full back and a genuine wide man to be certs for top two, IMHO.

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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by Loughborough Ram on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 7:29 pm

    Dealing strictly with the question a "realistic hope" is to win the league but the same could also have been said about last season.

    For me if George Thorne stays fit we will take some beating but if not, who knows?

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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by chicken on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 7:31 pm

    We need to see who else comes in first I think.
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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by outsider on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 7:41 pm

    Promotion, we fell apart last 8 games up until then we were going up as champions, we added to a team every one was raving about so I see no reason why we wont get promotion,
    Clements is untried manager I know but foundations there to bounce back from that disaster.

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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by ShardlowSheep on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 8:45 pm

    As it stands top 6 is a realistic goal but if Thorne stays fit automatic promotion is pretty likely.
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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by Stockport Ram on Thu 02 Jul 2015, 9:13 pm

    chicken wrote:We need to see who else comes in first I think.  

    Spot on.
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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by purpleram on Fri 03 Jul 2015, 8:06 am

    Well we have strengthened, if Thorn stays fit we could win it, unless the manager is completely useless or we have an injury crisis or two.

    I also expect/hope for at least three more signings, genuine cover for Thorn, a right back/centre half and Ince (or another capable of creating summat out of nowt).
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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by derbygee on Fri 03 Jul 2015, 8:33 am

    purpleram wrote:Well we have strengthened, if Thorn stays fit we could win it, unless the manager is completely useless or we have an injury crisis or two.

    I also expect/hope for at least three more signings, genuine cover for Thorn, a right back/centre half and Ince (or another capable of creating summat out of nowt).

    We all seem to be piling our hopes on Thorne lets pray to the god of rehab he stays fit!

    We desperately need more defenders and "quality" skipper who's head doesn't drop at the first setback
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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by MadAmster on Fri 03 Jul 2015, 9:00 am

    PL in the 16/17 season.
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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by Cornish Ram on Fri 03 Jul 2015, 9:27 am

    I'm saying promotion, it will be very close but I think we might finally do it.
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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by Angus on Fri 03 Jul 2015, 10:31 am

    Bit early to say, would be very promising with Shackell and Ince but we need to get some players out as well.

    Not sure on the new coaching staff, especially the FA guy, Clement needs to lose the Brendan Rogers style crap and quickly. I prefer a Nigel Pearson direct style myself, or even a Maclaren/Burley say nothing but certainly not the self promoting PR crap.

    People putting too much emphasis on Thorne, promising player but he hasn't played enough so far to be rated any more than that. Hughes and Martin will be the key players again and both the injury and speculation over Martin's future are concerns, as is Hughes going playing for England in the summer I would rather he hadn't and taken the full break.
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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by Angus on Fri 03 Jul 2015, 10:39 am

    derbygee wrote:Play off spot maybe but if Keogh stays and remains captain not even that I'm afraid.

    Unless we really do something special at the player shop in the next couple of weeks I don't think our defence is anywhere near good enough to get us promoted.

    Surely Shackell will be captain if he comes in, like Eustace armband or not he would be leader. Keogh alongside Shackell would be good but if Keogh attracts good offers as hinted at the press then he may well go.

    Right back has been a massive weak area for 2 seasons, I would have expected that to be a top priority, if that stays as it is we won't go up. We will be exposed as has been the case time after time by better teams in the last 2 seasons.
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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by Charingworth Ram on Fri 03 Jul 2015, 1:50 pm

    Angus wrote:
    derbygee wrote:Play off spot maybe but if Keogh stays and remains captain not even that I'm afraid.

    Unless we really do something special at the player shop in the next couple of weeks I don't think our defence is anywhere near good enough to get us promoted.

    Surely Shackell will be captain if he comes in, like Eustace armband or not he would be leader. Keogh alongside Shackell would be good but if Keogh attracts good offers as hinted at the press then he may well go.

    Right back has been a massive weak area for 2 seasons, I would have expected that to be a top priority, if that stays as it is we won't go up. We will be exposed as has been the case time after time by better teams in the last 2 seasons.

    Is everyone forgetting how woeful Forsyth was last season Afraid

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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by chicken on Fri 03 Jul 2015, 3:10 pm

    Charingworth Ram wrote:
    Angus wrote:
    derbygee wrote:Play off spot maybe but if Keogh stays and remains captain not even that I'm afraid.

    Unless we really do something special at the player shop in the next couple of weeks I don't think our defence is anywhere near good enough to get us promoted.

    Surely Shackell will be captain if he comes in, like Eustace armband or not he would be leader. Keogh alongside Shackell would be good but if Keogh attracts good offers as hinted at the press then he may well go.

    Right back has been a massive weak area for 2 seasons, I would have expected that to be a top priority, if that stays as it is we won't go up. We will be exposed as has been the case time after time by better teams in the last 2 seasons.

    Is everyone forgetting how woeful Forsyth was last season Afraid

    No.
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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by Boris on Fri 03 Jul 2015, 3:28 pm

    derbygee wrote:Play off spot maybe but if Keogh stays and remains captain not even that I'm afraid.

    Unless we really do something special at the player shop in the next couple of weeks I don't think our defence is anywhere near good enough to get us promoted.

    I think we have got to be pushing for the play offs....don't see why not.....
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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by LeedsRam on Fri 03 Jul 2015, 4:35 pm

    The treble. Anything less and I'm booing.
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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by bramhallram on Fri 03 Jul 2015, 5:37 pm

    Boris wrote:
    derbygee wrote:Play off spot maybe but if Keogh stays and remains captain not even that I'm afraid.

    Unless we really do something special at the player shop in the next couple of weeks I don't think our defence is anywhere near good enough to get us promoted.

    I think we have got to be pushing for the play offs....don't see why not.....

    I do. Our back four was rubbish in the last two months of last season and it hasn't been strengthened much so far.

    Until we sort the defence out we won't be getting promotion any time soon.

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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by RRC on Fri 03 Jul 2015, 5:50 pm

    bramhallram wrote:
    Boris wrote:
    derbygee wrote:Play off spot maybe but if Keogh stays and remains captain not even that I'm afraid.

    Unless we really do something special at the player shop in the next couple of weeks I don't think our defence is anywhere near good enough to get us promoted.

    I think we have got to be pushing for the play offs....don't see why not.....

    I do. Our back four was rubbish in the last two months of last season and it hasn't been strengthened much so far.

    Until we sort the defence out we won't be getting promotion any time soon.


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    True, I'm afraid.

    The increased attacking options will help us, as will George Thorne IF he stays fit,
    BUT conceding 56 goals last season and 52 the season before cost us and probably
    will again unless we address our weakest points.

    We need at least one better CB (the left-footed Shackell would probably be ideal) and a
    reliable RB. Without those, the defence will remain vulnerable to good attacking sides.



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    Re: Realistic hopes for next year

    Post by thatguyfromderby on Fri 03 Jul 2015, 5:51 pm

    bramhallram wrote:
    Boris wrote:
    derbygee wrote:Play off spot maybe but if Keogh stays and remains captain not even that I'm afraid.

    Unless we really do something special at the player shop in the next couple of weeks I don't think our defence is anywhere near good enough to get us promoted.

    I think we have got to be pushing for the play offs....don't see why not.....

    I do. Our back four was rubbish in the last two months of last season and it hasn't been strengthened much so far.

    Until we sort the defence out we won't be getting promotion any time soon.

    .  

    To be fair.. we've added Pearce and Baird (Mr Versatile). We now have Keogh, Bucko, Shotton, Albentosa, Pearce, Baird, Christie, and Forsyth. If we sign Shackell, I think we'd probably have a bit of a brick wall defence. We might also switch to playing 3 CB's, or some other formation.

    Don't forget, we had one of the best defences for well over half a season. It was only really when Martin got injured that everything went tits up.

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