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    Post by Boris on Wed 16 Mar 2016, 6:24 pm

    Putting this in this section as other sections seem constantly on amber. England humbled by a Gayle master class against the Windies. Have we any chance? I think on our day we can get some runs but our bowling attack is not strong enough. I think a £10 on Pakistan might be worth a flutter....
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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by RRC on Wed 16 Mar 2016, 6:52 pm

    I've moved this from About the Rams to Other Sports and Games, which includes cricket.

    I agree about England's bowling - Jordan was the only one who didn't leak runs for fun
    and the number of wides they bowled was ridiculous.
    The batsmen did OK today, though I wonder how consistent they'll be.
    Having said that, W Indies are ranked the second best T20 country after India, so losing
    to them was on the cards.

    We have to beat South Africa, Sri Lanka (not the force they used to be) and Afghanistan
    to progress - not impossible but not likely perhaps.

    Pakistan beating Bangladesh tells me nothing other than Bangladesh are weakest team
    in their group. Pakistan often get shock results but I'd fancy Australia and NZ to beat them.

    New Zealand's win over India was a surprise - it was smart of NZ to play 3 spinners but
    strange that India couldn't cope with spin.



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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by RRC on Fri 18 Mar 2016, 1:21 pm

    It could be D-Day for England. If they don't beat South Africa today, their
    chances of advancing to a semi-final after a second loss will be very slim.

    Meanwhile in the other group, New Zealand recorded their second win by
    beating Australia by 8 runs. Australia looked on course to win at 120-5,
    needing 23 runs from the last 3 overs, but then lost 4 wickets for 13 runs.



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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by RRC on Fri 18 Mar 2016, 3:45 pm

    That went well . . . for South Africa - 229-4.

    Most of our bowling was dire, notably Topley (33 runs off 2 overs) and Jordan (49 off 3 overs).
    The only bowlers with run rates in single figures were Moen Ali (2-34) and Adil Rashid (1-35).
    England's fielding was almost as bad.

    England's best ever T20 total is 214-7 so it will take a record score to win.
    It's a very good batting wicket, so no excuses if our batsmen fail very badly.



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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by RRC on Fri 18 Mar 2016, 5:37 pm

    Blimey, England won!  celebration

    The heroes were Joe Root (83) and Jason Roy (43) but all
    the batsmen contributed, though not without a silly moment.
    Wanting 1 run from the last over, Moen Ali and Willey managed
    to dither - to run or not to run - and Willey was run out.
    Ali struck the winning run with 2 balls to spare.

    England recorded the highest run chase in World 20/20 history
    and the second highest in all international T20. Amazing!



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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by Boris on Fri 18 Mar 2016, 5:59 pm

    RRC wrote:Blimey, England won!  celebration

    The heroes were Joe Root (83) and Jason Roy (43) but all
    the batsmen contributed, though not without a silly moment.
    Wanting 1 run from the last over, Moen Ali and Willey managed
    to dither - to run or not to run - and Willey was run out.
    Ali struck the winning run with 2 balls to spare.

    England recorded the highest run chase in World 20/20 history
    and the second highest in all international T20. Amazing!

    Not a bad win at all. Give him 2 or 3 years and young Joe Root will be up there with KP in terms of class. I think it's going to be a winner takes all to qualify between England and Sri Lanka....
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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by RRC on Fri 18 Mar 2016, 6:28 pm

    Boris wrote:Not a bad win at all. Give him 2 or 3 years and young Joe Root will be up there with KP in terms of class. I think it's going to be a winner takes all to qualify between England and Sri Lanka....

    Maybe, but both groups look rather open to me, though New Zealand's two wins put
    them in the box seat in their group.

    Sri Lanka weren't that convincing against Afghanistan, who could spring a surprise with
    a bit of luck and blight someone's chances. If West Indies lose Gayle early in an innings,
    they could suffer a shock loss, though their bowling looks to be the best in the group.

    So it's probably all to play for with 7 games to go in our group - we're the only team in
    our group who've played 2 matches so far.



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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by Angus on Fri 18 Mar 2016, 9:29 pm

    Boris wrote:
    RRC wrote:Blimey, England won!  celebration

    The heroes were Joe Root (83) and Jason Roy (43) but all
    the batsmen contributed, though not without a silly moment.
    Wanting 1 run from the last over, Moen Ali and Willey managed
    to dither - to run or not to run - and Willey was run out.
    Ali struck the winning run with 2 balls to spare.

    England recorded the highest run chase in World 20/20 history
    and the second highest in all international T20. Amazing!

    Not a bad win at all. Give him 2 or 3 years and young Joe Root will be up there with KP in terms of class. I think it's going to be a winner takes all to qualify between England and Sri Lanka....

    He is better than KP was already, Joe Root stands on the brink of greatness the batsman English cricket lovers have longed to see, who can cover all forms of the game. For me the nations no 1 sportsman at present, no one else comes close he is a true star.

    He did it last year in the biggest sporting contest of all the Ashes, which for any doubters was the biggest read story on the BBC website last year, apart from the Paris shootings, he could well lead us to this T2O tournament the lad is a phenomenon.
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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by Stockport Ram on Fri 18 Mar 2016, 11:37 pm

    Angus wrote:
    Boris wrote:
    RRC wrote:Blimey, England won!  celebration

    The heroes were Joe Root (83) and Jason Roy (43) but all
    the batsmen contributed, though not without a silly moment.
    Wanting 1 run from the last over, Moen Ali and Willey managed
    to dither - to run or not to run - and Willey was run out.
    Ali struck the winning run with 2 balls to spare.

    England recorded the highest run chase in World 20/20 history
    and the second highest in all international T20. Amazing!

    Not a bad win at all. Give him 2 or 3 years and young Joe Root will be up there with KP in terms of class. I think it's going to be a winner takes all to qualify between England and Sri Lanka....

    He is better than KP was already, Joe Root stands on the brink of greatness the batsman English cricket lovers have longed to see, who can cover all forms of the game. For me the nations no 1 sportsman at present, no one else comes close he is a true star.

    He did it last year in the biggest sporting contest of all the Ashes, which for any doubters was the biggest read story on the BBC website last year, apart from the Paris shootings, he could well lead us to this T2O tournament the lad is a phenomenon.

    100% agree with that.
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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by Boris on Sat 19 Mar 2016, 8:48 am

    Taking nothing away from young JR, fantastic player. Think how good it would be if KP was in the side with him. Interesting article on KP when his international career came to an end. Easy to forget just how good he was in all formats of the game. A little out of date but the stats speak for themselves..

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/kevinpietersen/11143028/Kevin-Pietersen-How-do-his-career-statistics-compare-to-Englands-other-batting-greats.html
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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by RRC on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 10:14 am

    England, needing to improve their chances of reaching the semi-finals by upping their run rate
    against Afghanistan, have opted for collective madness instead.

    With Roy gone in the 3rd over, they lost three more wickets (Vince, Morgan and Root) in the
    5th over and their 5th wicket (Buttler) in the 8th over.

    50-5 with 12 overs to go

    57-6 with 10 overs left . . . Bang head



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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by Boris on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 10:21 am

    RRC wrote:England, needing to improve their chances of reaching the semi-finals by upping their run rate
    against Afghanistan, have opted for collective madness instead.

    With Roy gone in the 3rd over, they lost three more wickets (Vince, Morgan and Root) in the
    5th over and their 5th wicket (Buttler) in the 8th over.

    50-5 with 12 overs to go

    57-6 with 10 overs left . . .  Bang head

    Bring back KP!!!!
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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by New England Ram on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 1:04 pm

    Out of jail card played.



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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by RRC on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 1:14 pm

    New England Ram wrote:Out of jail card played.

    A win by 15 runs a saves our blushes but it does nothing for our chances
    of going further in the competition, because our run rate is a tiny +0.018.

    We need South Africa to do very badly from now on, because their run
    rate is a very respectable +0.816, and for Sri Lanka not to improve.

    It's a bit like Derby's situation - we're relying on others to fail.



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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by Boris on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 2:21 pm

    RRC wrote:
    New England Ram wrote:Out of jail card played.

    A win by 15 runs a saves our blushes but it does nothing for our chances
    of going further in the competition, because our run rate is a tiny +0.018.

    We need South Africa to do very badly from now on, because their run
    rate is a very respectable +0.816, and for Sri Lanka not to improve.

    It's a bit like Derby's situation - we're relying on others to fail.

    Not really...if we beat Sri Lanka and the Windies beat South Africa we are through...
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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by RRC on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 2:44 pm

    Boris wrote:
    RRC wrote:
    New England Ram wrote:Out of jail card played.

    A win by 15 runs a saves our blushes but it does nothing for our chances
    of going further in the competition, because our run rate is a tiny +0.018.

    We need South Africa to do very badly from now on, because their run
    rate is a very respectable +0.816, and for Sri Lanka not to improve.

    It's a bit like Derby's situation - we're relying on others to fail.

    Not really...if we beat Sri Lanka and the Windies beat South Africa we are through...

    You prove my point - W Indies don't need to beat South Africa.

    They'll top the group as long as they beat Afghanistan, so they can take it easy,
    even lose, against South Africa and have a run feast against the Afghans.

    BTW did you have a bet on Pakistan?



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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by Boris on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 2:59 pm

    RRC wrote:
    Boris wrote:
    RRC wrote:
    New England Ram wrote:Out of jail card played.

    A win by 15 runs a saves our blushes but it does nothing for our chances
    of going further in the competition, because our run rate is a tiny +0.018.

    We need South Africa to do very badly from now on, because their run
    rate is a very respectable +0.816, and for Sri Lanka not to improve.

    It's a bit like Derby's situation - we're relying on others to fail.

    Not really...if we beat Sri Lanka and the Windies beat South Africa we are through...

    You prove my point - W Indies don't need to beat South Africa.

    They'll top the group as long as they beat Afghanistan, so they can take it easy,
    even lose, against South Africa and have a run feast against the Afghans.

    BTW did you have a bet on Pakistan?

    If England beat Sri Lanka, South Africa have to beat both Sri Lanka and the West Indies. If they do that they deserve to go through. I don't think it will come down to run rate, that's my bet...no I didn't thankfully....
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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by RRC on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 3:09 pm

    Boris wrote:
    RRC wrote:
    Boris wrote:
    RRC wrote:
    New England Ram wrote:Out of jail card played.

    A win by 15 runs a saves our blushes but it does nothing for our chances
    of going further in the competition, because our run rate is a tiny +0.018.

    We need South Africa to do very badly from now on, because their run
    rate is a very respectable +0.816, and for Sri Lanka not to improve.

    It's a bit like Derby's situation - we're relying on others to fail.

    Not really...if we beat Sri Lanka and the Windies beat South Africa we are through...

    You prove my point - W Indies don't need to beat South Africa.

    They'll top the group as long as they beat Afghanistan, so they can take it easy,
    even lose, against South Africa and have a run feast against the Afghans.

    BTW did you have a bet on Pakistan?

    If England beat Sri Lanka, South Africa have to beat both Sri Lanka and the West Indies. If they do that they deserve to go through. I don't think it will come down to run rate, that's my bet...no I didn't thankfully....

    Exactly - we can beat Sri Lanka and still not go through, so we are relying on South
    Africa failing. The odds are that they will but I still wouldn't bet the house on us.
    South Africa can bottle it but so can we, as we nearly did today.



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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by Boris on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 4:12 pm

    RRC wrote:
    Boris wrote:
    RRC wrote:
    Boris wrote:
    RRC wrote:
    New England Ram wrote:Out of jail card played.

    A win by 15 runs a saves our blushes but it does nothing for our chances
    of going further in the competition, because our run rate is a tiny +0.018.

    We need South Africa to do very badly from now on, because their run
    rate is a very respectable +0.816, and for Sri Lanka not to improve.

    It's a bit like Derby's situation - we're relying on others to fail.

    Not really...if we beat Sri Lanka and the Windies beat South Africa we are through...

    You prove my point - W Indies don't need to beat South Africa.

    They'll top the group as long as they beat Afghanistan, so they can take it easy,
    even lose, against South Africa and have a run feast against the Afghans.

    BTW did you have a bet on Pakistan?

    If England beat Sri Lanka, South Africa have to beat both Sri Lanka and the West Indies. If they do that they deserve to go through. I don't think it will come down to run rate, that's my bet...no I didn't thankfully....

    Exactly - we can beat Sri Lanka and still not go through, so we are relying on South
    Africa failing. The odds are that they will but I still wouldn't bet the house on us.
    South Africa can bottle it but so can we, as we nearly did today.

    In a Group like this there are lots of possibilities. My gut feeling is that if we beat Sri Lanka we will qualify, 3 wins out of 4 will be enough....
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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by Loughborough Ram on Wed 23 Mar 2016, 6:26 pm

    If the West Indies go through with four wins then it becomes a lottery, and whilst you can try and ensure your run rate is competetive there will never be guarantees, you need some luck. Whoever goes out having lost only one game can count themselves unlucky in my opinion.
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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by Stockport Ram on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 5:34 pm

    A lot more straight forward now.....
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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by Boris on Fri 25 Mar 2016, 5:43 pm

    Stockport Ram wrote:A lot more straight forward now.....

    As I predicted it would come down to us having to beat Sri Lanka...which I think we will...
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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by Stockport Ram on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 5:29 pm

    That was some performance, under immense pressure when Mathews got going.


    Brilliant penultimate over from Jordan.
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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by Loughborough Ram on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 7:05 pm

    Sri Lanka made a great game of it though
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    Re: 20/20 World Cup

    Post by purpleram on Sat 26 Mar 2016, 8:52 pm

    Thought we had chucked it away about 14 overs in, spinners what were you thinking!!!??? but as said last two overs a master-class, great entertainment.

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