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    Winter break or not? (again)

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    Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by RRC on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 4:04 pm

    The Premier League is open to the idea of introducing a winter break.
    Together with the Football Association and English Football League, the
    Premier League has been considering ways to ease fixture congestion.
    A winter break has been discussed before and is being done so again,
    with the Premier League, in principle, open to the concept.

    It said in a statement: "The Premier League has been in discussions
    with the FA and EFL for several months regarding the challenges of the
    increasingly congested English football calendar, and ways in which we
    can work together to ease fixture congestion while also giving players
    a mid-season break. Provided space can be found in the calendar, we
    are open to this in principle and will continue constructive discussions
    with our football stakeholders to seek a workable solution."

    If Derby are promoted, they'll be affected by this and it could happen
    as soon as 2020. What do you think about it?

    Derby Telegraph



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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by Loughborough Ram on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 4:47 pm

    Yet another example of pandering to the poor old 'tired' players, and taking the game away from the fans. I absolutely guarantee that within the first couple of years of this being introduced players and managers will be using this as an excuse for poor performances, saying we were 'rusty' for weeks after the break.

    What exactly is a two week break after christmas supposed to achieve anyway? With rotation, massive swuad sizes and fewer teams in the top division, players are expected to play fewer games in a season than ever before.

    I wonder what excuse the national team will come up with when this is introduced and we're still sh*t at the World Cup and European Championships.
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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by CornwallRam on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 4:51 pm

    I think it actually panders to the big clubs wanting earn some cash by playing friendlies in China etc

    Terrible idea
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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by Calif_Ramette on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 6:02 pm

    Other leagues do it, I see no reason why it would be an issue here.
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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by Mucker1884 on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 7:12 pm

    So let me get this straight... Complaints about "fixture congestion", so the answer is to reduce the season by a couple of weeks or so?
    Hmmm... I'm missing something, ain't I?  

    I suppose they could just start in July, end in June, and just have 4 or 5 weeks holiday a year, like real people?



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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by Mucker1884 on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 7:18 pm

    Calif_Ramette wrote:Other leagues do it, I see no reason why it would be an issue here.


    "Here"? Or There? Wink

    I suspect most countries that can accommodate such a mid-season break have fewer games to play, as in less teams per division?
    How long before the EFL have Leagues 3 and 4? (That's divisions 5 and 6, in old money! LOL!)
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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by MadAmster on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 8:47 pm

    Be one in '22 quite likely when the World Cup gets moved to the winter......
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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by New England Ram on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 10:11 pm

    The only players entitled to a winter break are long retired.
    They all played in the 60s and 70s with a match day squad of 12.
    A season squad consisted of about 16 players.
    They played all league games cup games cup replays and cup cup replays .
    In winter often on concrete like pitches..there were no heated pitches.



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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by norfolkram on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 10:31 pm

    Overpaid bunch of c#nts,
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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by mcsilks on Tue 06 Feb 2018, 11:13 pm

    The proposed winter break would likely be in January, so the Christmas fixtures would remain.

    At the start of the season, all of the pundits ramble on about the players taking 2~3 games to become match fit.

    At the start of the commentary of the Derby v Brentford game, the commentary team spoke about how Derby played in a rather lackadaisical manner against Millwall citing the Spanish sun break as the reason.

    Surely a winter break would mean that the season would effectively be split into two, each starting with a small window when the players need to get back into full match fitness.

    For me, the product would not be as good as before for these reasons.

    The only reason these clubs want a winter break is because the players in the very top sides are playing in up to 4 or even 5 competitions. The very top sides...

    Why should we continue to rip up our beautiful game to accommodate Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd, Liverpool, and Spurs.

    Unfortunately, the argument will continue and a solution is required that suits all parties, so my solution would be to make the League Cup an optional tournament. So what if it is 'devalued'. It has already been devalued with reserve teams being played by all or most anyway.

    The reason they want a break is too many games after all, so taking a competition out would do just that.
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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by SawleyRam on Wed 07 Feb 2018, 9:23 am

    There is another side to the story that all comments above seem to have missed, how about the missing fans because of a cold, wet even snowy January mid week night match?

    The dangers of getting to the stadium, the dangers of slipping on ice, the mid winter north wind blowing chilling you to the bone as you're watching the game.

    Despite all that it makes me feel ALIVE, so no to a mid winter break for me!
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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by Jackal on Wed 07 Feb 2018, 1:18 pm

    SawleyRam wrote:There is another side to the story that all comments above seem to have missed, how about the missing fans because of a cold, wet even snowy January mid week night match?

    The dangers of getting to the stadium, the dangers of slipping on ice, the mid winter north wind blowing chilling you to the bone as you're watching the game.

    Despite all that it makes me feel ALIVE, so no to a mid winter break for me!
    But here we are, getting snow in February. There's no way to accurately predict what the weather will be like at a certain point in the season, before it even starts.
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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by MadAmster on Wed 07 Feb 2018, 2:58 pm

    I remember just a couple of seasons ago we came over for a game, the Huggers of Trees I believe it was. An eighth of an inch of snow in Derby, pitch clear, area around Pride Park clear, town centre just a bit mushy underfoot.

    Game postponed.

    That did generate more drinking time though. Drink Drink Drink Drink Drink Drink Drink Drink
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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by Loughborough Ram on Wed 07 Feb 2018, 2:59 pm

    I heard a spokesman for the EFL stating clearly that this will only be a holiday for the Premiersh*t girls. He said that the EFL need to be use every available Saturday to fit all of the games in.
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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by Loughborough Ram on Wed 07 Feb 2018, 3:00 pm

    To be fair Amster I think that there was more than a little coincidence that this game was off the day after the F*rest chairman passed away.
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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by MadAmster on Wed 07 Feb 2018, 3:20 pm

    Good point Loughs. I'd forgotten that link.
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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by Mitten State Ram on Wed 07 Feb 2018, 3:42 pm

    I felt like Derby barely played a game in January as it already is.
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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by MadAmster on Wed 07 Feb 2018, 4:18 pm

    4 in the League and 1 in the cup.
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    Re: Winter break or not? (again)

    Post by rob on Thu 08 Feb 2018, 11:08 am

    total shite - what odds those same clubs going on "winter breaks" to china, the arab emirates etc and playing some "friendlies"

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