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    QPR 1-1 Derby reports and comments

    Post by RRC on Tue 06 Mar 2018, 9:51 pm

    It was more of the same for Derby. Only the names change in our invariable 4-2-3-1 system.
    Ledley, Palmer and Nugent started instead of Thorne, Vydra and Jerome. QPR made two
    changes to the side that lost 2-5 to Forest and switched formation from 3-5-2 to 4-3-3.
          Carson
          Wisdom Keogh Davies Forsyth
          Huddlestone Ledley
          Weimann Palmer Lawrence
          Nugent
          subs - Roos Pearce Hanson Johnson Vydra Anya Jerome

    QPR attacked with pace from the start, linking up well, and a Matt Smith shot crashed against
    the bar. They also battled harder than the Rams, who helped QPR by giving the ball away easily
    and conceding free kicks. When Derby made their first chance on 11 minutes through Weimann,
    with the QPR defence in a muddle, Nugent shot wide. After 13 minutes, Ledley was injured and
    Johnson replaced him. Forsyth struggled to contain Smyth and he got a booking and a final
    warning for crude fouls. QPR worked very hard and won all the second balls. A long throw and a
    flick-on fell to the centre back Onuoha who blazed an easy chance over the Derby bar. The Rams
    couldn’t string more than three passes together, so QPR’s defence was rarely tested.



    Though QPR kept up the pressure on the Rams, their shooting was as poor (8 shots, 0 on target)
    as Derby’s defending. Against the run of play, Palmer side-stepped two men and threaded a
    perfectly weighted ball through to Weimann, who buried his shot in the net on 38 minutes. The
    goal energized Derby and their play improved. Lawrence raced down the wing and beat his man
    but Robinson, the centre half, was quick enough to halt the attack. Davies had to be alert to stop
    QPR’s last attack of the half down the right.
    HT QPR 0–1 Derby

    Derby started the second half positively at a higher tempo, pushing into the QPR half. Weimann
    beat two men and laid the ball on for Nugent but the striker didn’t run for it. The home side were
    still lively in attack and their long throws continued to test the Rams defence. In defence QPR
    looked shaky when Derby closed them down and Matt Smith came close to putting the ball in his
    own net. Davies made a crucial block on Matt Smith’s shot, after QPR had waltzed through Derby’s
    defence. The home side raised their game, committing more men forward, and they exposed the
    Rams defence as the game became end to end. Jerome replaced Nugent on 71 minutes. Carson,
    who was unsighted, made a marvellous save from Freeman. Wisdom gave away a silly free kick,
    Derby didn’t clear it and Carson had to save again. QPR had another lively spell but they still
    couldn’t find the target. Vydra came on for Palmer with 8 minutes left.

    A silly free kick just outside this Derby box conceded by Lawrence, who got a yellow card, led to
    a QPR goal. Luongo’s header on 87 minutes gave Carson no chance. A Johnson shot was just
    over the bar. Keogh lost the ball carelessly, giving Lynch a free header, which Carson saved.
    Scowen also had a free shot but it was wide. Derby produced a better performance in spells during
    the second half but they didn’t do enough to win and were far from convincing against a struggling
    team. The referee Simon Hooper was excellent.
    FT QPR 1–1 Derby

    Cardiff (2nd, 70 points), Villa (3rd, 66), Fulham (4th, 65), Middlesbrough (6th, 58) and
    Preston (8th, 57) all won. Derby (5th, 61) drew. Bristol City (7th, 57) and Sheffield U (9th, 55)
    both lost. League leaders Wolves are due to play Leeds on Wednesday night.


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    Post by Calif_Ramette on Tue 06 Mar 2018, 9:56 pm

    I was watching the score and just waited for QPR to level and sure enough they did.
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    Post by Mitten State Ram on Tue 06 Mar 2018, 10:14 pm

    We were poor. No playoffs for us, I fear. The lads look like a Rams team in March: lost.
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    Post by casinoram on Tue 06 Mar 2018, 10:21 pm

    Calif_Ramette wrote:I was watching the score and just waited for QPR to level and sure enough they did.

    Yep, the writing was on the wall... total lack of confidence in the Team.
    This is where GR and his staff should be earning their money. Someone needs to get the S**T together and get these players playing as a team.

    ..If Derby were a Business...God Help Them !!


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    Post by Calif_Ramette on Tue 06 Mar 2018, 10:42 pm

    casinoram wrote:
    Calif_Ramette wrote:I was watching the score and just waited for QPR to level and sure enough they did.

    Yep, the writing was on the wall...  total lack of confidence in the Team.
    This is where GR and his staff should be earning their money. Someone needs to get the S**T together and get these players playing as a team.

    ..If Derby were a Business...God Help Them !!


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    I will look on the bright side at least we got a point instead of zero. That at least is something.
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    Post by Stockport Ram on Tue 06 Mar 2018, 10:55 pm

    I can't remember the last time we were 5th with 10 games to go, and loooked at the four teams below us...and thought that, on current form, they were all better than us.


    I would also add that the play off final team were better footballers, 1 to 11, but (at least for the first 28 games), not a better team.

    Hold on to your hats folks.


    If we fail again, can we find a common denominator?
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    Post by Stockport Ram on Tue 06 Mar 2018, 11:07 pm

    My Rams 2018 calendar has been turned on to April...I just can't look at his panicky face anymore.....

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    Post by chicken on Tue 06 Mar 2018, 11:54 pm

    Stockport Ram wrote:My Rams 2018 calendar has been turned on to April...I just can't look at his panicky face anymore.....

    I’ve done exactly the same.

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    Post by chicken on Tue 06 Mar 2018, 11:57 pm

    Stockport Ram wrote:I can't remember the last time we were 5th with 10 games to go, and loooked at the four teams below us...and thought that, on current form, they were all better than us.


    I would also add that the play off final team were better footballers, 1 to 11,  but (at least for the first 28 games), not a better team.

    Hold on to your hats folks.


    If we fail again, can we find a common denominator?


    You’re not allowed to mention him. Although I will stand by my comment at the start of the season that we will never get promoted whilst Voldemort is in the team.
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    Post by Stockport Ram on Wed 07 Mar 2018, 12:09 am

    chicken wrote:
    Stockport Ram wrote:I can't remember the last time we were 5th with 10 games to go, and loooked at the four teams below us...and thought that, on current form, they were all better than us.


    I would also add that the play off final team were better footballers, 1 to 11,  but (at least for the first 28 games), not a better team.

    Hold on to your hats folks.


    If we fail again, can we find a common denominator?


    You’re not allowed to mention him.  Although I will stand by my comment at the start of the season that we will never get promoted whilst Voldemort is in the team.

    I didn't mention him...and neither did you.

    Bryson?
    Hughes?
    Martin?


    Oh okay, I give up.....


    I feel for GR, because he has done everything in his power to cope with the problem, and succeeded magnificently with 9 and a half outfield players for two thirds of the season, by compromising accordingly.

    He now needs 10.


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    Post by chicken on Wed 07 Mar 2018, 12:14 am

    Stockport Ram wrote:
    chicken wrote:
    Stockport Ram wrote:I can't remember the last time we were 5th with 10 games to go, and loooked at the four teams below us...and thought that, on current form, they were all better than us.


    I would also add that the play off final team were better footballers, 1 to 11,  but (at least for the first 28 games), not a better team.

    Hold on to your hats folks.


    If we fail again, can we find a common denominator?


    You’re not allowed to mention him.  Although I will stand by my comment at the start of the season that we will never get promoted whilst Voldemort is in the team.

    I didn't mention him...and neither did you.

    Bryson?
    Hughes?
    Martin?


    Oh okay, I give up.....


    I feel for GR, because he has done everything in his power to cope with the problem, and succeeded magnificently with 9 and a half outfield players for two thirds of the season, by compromising accordingly.

    He now needs 10.


    Until he is allowed to by those on high, he will always only have 9 and a half.
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    Post by outsider on Wed 07 Mar 2018, 6:48 am

    Wtf has gone wrong with our defending, from clean sheets to comical defending. Keogh and davis seemed a good partnership to now them seem all over the place. Was the blip keeping clean sheet.
    Again we are lucky to scrape a draw.
    Football has been poor but we put up as we was in top 2/3 now we sliding down the playoffs.

    Forest Sunday on sky..... ... a must win game as a heavy loss could be curtains fo GR ...

    even I'm losing my blind faith in Rowlett and the team
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    Post by KeoghKeogh on Wed 07 Mar 2018, 8:09 am

    nah - he's nailed on for POTY...

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    Post by MadAmster on Wed 07 Mar 2018, 8:49 am

    Worst performance in a while and it's now a 6 game winless streak.

    From the off it was evident that we have reverted to 7 defenders and 4 attackers. That gave them the midfield and, fortunately, they couldn't take advantage. Disjointed play at best but we did have a few good counters 1st half. From one we should have had a penalty in the 18th minute for a pull back on I think it was Weimann. He was through so it ought to have been red as well. The goal was brilliant. Palmer on a sublime run puts through a pinpoint pass and Weimann slotted it away perfectly. On the balance of 1st half play we were a tad lucky to go in ahead.

    2nd half? We were poor. They had sooooo many shots. 3 or 4 worldies from Carson again kept us in it. Their equaliser, when it came, was much deserved but should have been ruled out. Look at the BBC report of the game. They show a photo of the moment just after the ball left Luongo's head on its way into the net. The photo clearly shows BJ on his knees and one of their players has a handful of his shirt. That is an infringement. That is a free kick to Derby.

    We scored one, were denied a penalty we should have had, pulled back by a goal that should not have counted in a game we never deserved to win and we didn't. What a present for GRs birthday........
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    Post by valakari on Wed 07 Mar 2018, 10:41 am

    ...i tell ya, Rowett is doomed....i said Mel won't put up with playing shite when we don't win...he got away with the dour football because we picked up wins, somehow!...and Mark my words, he'll be gone before the Ambre Solaire comes out...
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    Post by outsider on Wed 07 Mar 2018, 1:27 pm

    valakari wrote:...i tell ya, Rowett is doomed....i said Mel won't put up with playing shite when we don't win...he got away with the dour football because we picked up wins, somehow!...and Mark my words, he'll be gone before the Ambre Solaire comes out...

    agree on that we put up with a lot as we in play offs once we fall out of them..... Dunno Dunno
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    Post by SawleyRam on Wed 07 Mar 2018, 3:49 pm

    KeoghKeogh wrote:nah - he's nailed on for POTY...


    So good you wrote his name twice..........................
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    Post by rjrules71 on Wed 07 Mar 2018, 5:26 pm

    outsider wrote:Wtf has gone wrong with our defending, from clean sheets to comical defending. Keogh and davis seemed a good partnership to now them seem all over the place. Was the blip keeping clean sheet.
    Again we are lucky to scrape a draw.  
    Football has been poor but we put up as we was in top 2/3 now we sliding down the playoffs.

    Forest Sunday on sky..... ... a must win game as a heavy loss could be curtains fo GR ...

    even I'm losing my blind faith in Rowlett and the team

    I think you have the wrong end of the pitch, we have stopped scoring that is the problem. Weiman and the midfielders weigh in a now and again, but Vids is of the boil, Lawrence never got to the boil and Jerome or Nugent just aint gonna cut it.

    GR needs to find a way to get the goals rolling again , this is what takes the wind out of the oppo.
    Getting one bit of luck then hanging on is definitely not the "derby way"
    Sack Phillips if he cant come up with the goods Anger
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    Post by valakari on Wed 07 Mar 2018, 6:33 pm

    Such a shame..the problem as I see it starts and finishes with Mel's managerial choices...by that I mean ...when he appoints new managers..they have all got different styles of play. Because of This, players who fit , for example, McClarens way of playing, didn't suit Pearsons way..so he started to change the players. Then Clement, different again, so different players. McClarens back, then Rowett, very different again. No wonder we have players such as Bryson, Hughes and Martin who had to go! Now we are left with a mixture that aren't good enough to play the current style. The answer is for Mel to decide which style he wants, get a manager he will back and get players who suit it. If it doesn't go as well as he requires, change the manager, BUT get a new manager who sets up the same style as the previous one. This allows for continuity and allows the players to suit the style of play without having to keep changing them. Surely this makes sense because if Not, we will keep on having the same issues, involving having players the manager can't get Out, that don't fit into his model..and players we have to virtually give away or loan out just so they can play football. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems blatantly obvious to me.
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    Post by MadAmster on Wed 07 Mar 2018, 6:56 pm

    valakari wrote:The answer is for Mel to decide which style he wants, get a manager he will back and get players who suit it. If it doesn't go as well as he requires, change the manager, BUT get a new manager who sets up the same style as the previous one.

    When a style has failed, what, 5 years on the trot, shouldn't we be looking to change that system?
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    Post by valakari on Wed 07 Mar 2018, 8:57 pm

    Mad....the system and players have changed..not for the better. We should have got a manager similar to Mcclaren in attacking philosophy and added some better players suited to that system imo...and keep adding as required rather than keep starting again.
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    Post by outsider on Wed 07 Mar 2018, 9:00 pm

    rjrules71 wrote:
    outsider wrote:Wtf has gone wrong with our defending, from clean sheets to comical defending. Keogh and davis seemed a good partnership to now them seem all over the place. Was the blip keeping clean sheet.
    Again we are lucky to scrape a draw.  
    Football has been poor but we put up as we was in top 2/3 now we sliding down the playoffs.

    Forest Sunday on sky..... ... a must win game as a heavy loss could be curtains fo GR ...

    even I'm losing my blind faith in Rowlett and the team

    I think you have the wrong end of the pitch, we have stopped scoring that is the problem. Weiman and the midfielders weigh in a now and again, but Vids is of the boil, Lawrence never got to the boil and Jerome or Nugent just aint gonna cut it.

    GR needs to find a way to get the goals rolling again , this is what takes the wind out of the oppo.
    Getting one bit of luck then hanging on is definitely not the "derby way"
    Sack Phillips if he cant come up with the goods  Anger

    10 goals leaked in last 5 games
    1 goal leaked in 5 previous

    Dunno
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    Post by SawleyRam on Wed 07 Mar 2018, 10:31 pm

    valakari wrote:Such a shame..the problem as I see it starts and finishes with Mel's managerial choices...by that I mean ...when he appoints new managers..they have all got different styles of play. Because of This, players who fit , for example, McClarens way of playing, didn't suit Pearsons way..so he started to change the players. Then Clement, different again, so different players. McClarens back, then Rowett, very different again. No wonder we have players such as Bryson, Hughes and Martin who had to go! Now we are left with a mixture that aren't good enough to play the current style. The answer is for Mel to decide which style he wants, get a manager he will back and get players who suit it. If it doesn't go as well as he requires, change the manager, BUT get a new manager who sets up the same style as the previous one. This allows for continuity and allows the players to suit the style of play without having to keep changing them. Surely this makes sense because if Not, we will keep on having the same issues, involving having players the manager can't get Out, that don't fit into his model..and players we have to virtually give away or loan out just so they can play football. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems blatantly obvious to me.

    That makes sense Val and you have just made the biggest case for Mel to keep the manager he has got so not to change the style of football.
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    Post by valakari on Thu 08 Mar 2018, 12:01 am

    If he buys quality in the summer..not players like Jerome and Ledley!!!

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