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    Team V Preston

    Post by KeoghKeogh on Sat 31 Mar 2018, 8:15 am

    Carson

    Baird Wisdom Davies (capt) Anya

    Ledley Huddlestone Weimann

    Palmer (free role) Vydra

    Nugent

    subs to include Bird and a few more u 23s
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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by swadieram on Sat 31 Mar 2018, 8:41 am

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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by MadAmster on Sat 31 Mar 2018, 8:51 am

    KeoghKeogh wrote:Carson

    Baird Wisdom Davies (capt) Anya

    Ledley Huddlestone Weimann

    Palmer (free role) Vydra  

    Nugent

    subs to include Bird and a few more u 23s

    How's about .......
    Carson
    Baird Wisdom Davies
    Hudds Ledley
    Weimann Vydra Palmer
    Nugent Thomas
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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by KeoghKeogh on Sat 31 Mar 2018, 9:08 am

    MadAmster wrote:
    KeoghKeogh wrote:Carson

    Baird Wisdom Davies (capt) Anya

    Ledley Huddlestone Weimann

    Palmer (free role) Vydra  

    Nugent

    subs to include Bird and a few more u 23s

    How's about .......
    Carson
    Baird Wisdom Davies
    Hudds Ledley
    Weimann Vydra Palmer
    Nugent Thomas
    yep - that'd be ok too
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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by Rams bottom on Sat 31 Mar 2018, 9:18 am

    Who is your captain?
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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by MadAmster on Sat 31 Mar 2018, 9:26 am

    Rams bottom wrote:Who is your captain?

    Davies? Hudds? I think Davies would be the more vocal of the two and organise better so I'll go for Curtis.
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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by valakari on Sat 31 Mar 2018, 11:47 am

    Admittedly Keogh had a shocker (and I'm his biggest fan), but 1 bad game in a season ain't bad..its just that it was the last one! Many others had very poor games too. So much so that my team v Preston would be:
    Carson; Wisdom; Huddlestone; Palmer, Vydra...then I'm struggling...think we should play them at 5 a side!



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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by CornwallRam on Sat 31 Mar 2018, 11:55 am

    KeoghKeogh wrote:
    MadAmster wrote:
    KeoghKeogh wrote:Carson

    Baird Wisdom Davies (capt) Anya

    Ledley Huddlestone Weimann

    Palmer (free role) Vydra  

    Nugent

    subs to include Bird and a few more u 23s

    How's about .......
    Carson
    Baird Wisdom Davies
    Hudds Ledley
    Weimann Vydra Palmer
    Nugent Thomas
    yep - that'd be ok too

    As long as the opposition don't cheat and play wingers or attacking full backs - in which case we'd concede a lot more than 4
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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by New England Ram on Sat 31 Mar 2018, 4:13 pm

    Carson

    Wisdom  Davies Keogh  Baird

    Anya Huddlestone Palmer Thomas
               Vydra  Weimann

    Surrender dancer

    Tongue in cheek team selection but neither Nugent or Jerome are effective..
    Weimann has energy to burn and having him in the middle he’s not going to give defenders any rest not to mention if he’s in the middle his miscues have a better chance of going in LOL



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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by CornwallRam on Sat 31 Mar 2018, 4:25 pm

    Carson
    Wisdom Keogh Davies Forsyth
    Huddlestone Ledley
    Palmer Vydra Wiemann
    Nugent

    ...and stick with that for the rest of the season.

    Most of that side got us to 2nd and we're still 5th. Russell has gone so I've selected Palmer to replace, but it could easily be Anya. I do think that Lawrence needs a rest. I also think that Forsyth is a better player than Olsson, but boy does he need to start showing it.
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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by New England Ram on Sat 31 Mar 2018, 4:35 pm

    CornwallRam wrote:Carson
    Wisdom Keogh Davies Forsyth
    Huddlestone Ledley
    Palmer Vydra Wiemann
    Nugent

    ...and stick with that for the rest of the season.

    Most of that side got us to 2nd and we're still 5th. Russell has gone so I've selected Palmer to replace, but it could easily be Anya. I do think that Lawrence needs a rest. I also think that Forsyth is a better player than Olsson, but boy does he need to start showing it.

    Actually agree with that Corny



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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by RRC on Sat 31 Mar 2018, 4:57 pm

    New England Ram wrote:
    CornwallRam wrote:Carson
    Wisdom Keogh Davies Forsyth
    Huddlestone Ledley
    Palmer Vydra Wiemann
    Nugent

    ...and stick with that for the rest of the season.

    Most of that side got us to 2nd and we're still 5th. Russell has gone so I've selected Palmer to replace, but it could easily be Anya. I do think that Lawrence needs a rest. I also think that Forsyth is a better player than Olsson, but boy does he need to start showing it.

    Actually agree with that Corny

    I'd agree too, as long as Forsyth recovers quickly from his Friday nightmare - his confidence must be shot.

    Otherwise I'd go with Anya at LB - not great as a defender but he should contribute more going forward.



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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by ShardlowSheep on Sat 31 Mar 2018, 5:02 pm

    CornwallRam wrote:Carson
    Wisdom Keogh Davies Forsyth
    Huddlestone Ledley
    Palmer Vydra Wiemann
    Nugent

    ...and stick with that for the rest of the season.

    Most of that side got us to 2nd and we're still 5th. Russell has gone so I've selected Palmer to replace, but it could easily be Anya. I do think that Lawrence needs a rest. I also think that Forsyth is a better player than Olsson, but boy does he need to start showing it.
    I wouldn’t argue with that team, apart from maybe Forsyth who I am not sure can return to any kind of form.
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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by New England Ram on Sat 31 Mar 2018, 6:38 pm

    Agree regards Forsyth I’m not sure he can recover mentally .
    Physically he is clearly not the player he was pre injuries but now his head may well be the issue.
    Talking of which ..the penalty was an awful mistake but I think his headed own goal was even worse.
    If your going to put your head on a ball that’s traveling like that then meet it full on and head it back the way it’s coming from and past the geezer that just shot it.



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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by Loughborough Ram on Sat 31 Mar 2018, 8:07 pm

    I've said it all season but I'd go with three at the back, two wing backs, three in the middle and two up front.

    Carson

    Anya

    Wisdom
    Keogh
    Davies

    Forsyth

    Huddlestone
    Ledley

    Palmer

    Nugent
    Vydra

    I would tell Nugent, Palmer and Vydra to play together, go where they want and create confusion in the oppositions back line. We are now well past the point of desperation and just plodding along with the same faces in the same system will just give us a long lingering death.

    Of course I expect the usual 4-2-3-1 with the manager rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic but I can dream can't I?
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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by mcsilks on Sun 01 Apr 2018, 1:02 am

    Loughborough Ram wrote:I've said it all season but I'd go with three at the back, two wing backs, three in the middle and two up front.

    Carson

    Anya

    Wisdom
    Keogh
    Davies

    Forsyth

    Huddlestone
    Ledley

    Palmer

    Nugent
    Vydra

    I would tell Nugent, Palmer and Vydra to play together, go where they want and create confusion in the oppositions back line. We are now well past the point of desperation and just plodding along with the same faces in the same system will just give us a long lingering death.

    Of course I expect the usual 4-2-3-1 with the manager rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic but I can dream can't I?


    You've said that all season....really?

    You've been as happy as larry with most of our season saying how good we were playing and ridiculing those who even dared to suggest that our results were in the main lucky.

    Now all of a sudden you claim that you were shouting out for a new system all season.


    I would leave the system as it is in the hope that things will turn.

    It's too late in the season for GR to be starting new systems.

    We don't have a manager that likes to play football on the front foot, so it's pointless playing in a formation that means we are using attacking full backs and forcing the opposition back.

    MM chose GR and by bringing him in, it means that we are stuck with formations whereby we are as compact as possible with as little space as possible in the attacking area.

    I believe he is getting the best out of the players we have. It's just that the players we have are simply not good enough to be playing at the top end of the championship.

    I know you disagree with this as you have also stated that you think half of our squad could play in the Premiership but that's opinions eh.
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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by Loughborough Ram on Sun 01 Apr 2018, 8:35 am

    mcsilks wrote:

    I know you disagree with this as you have also stated that you think half of our squad could play in the Premiership but that's opinions eh.

    Are you sure I said that? Half the team?
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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by MadAmster on Sun 01 Apr 2018, 8:56 am

    I have mentioned 3 at the back on a few occasions this season. I also remember Loughie having mentioned it rather more often than I have.

    Opinions eh?

    At least we can discuss things here without it blowing up into a full on war of words. The same is not true of many other boards, one of which has just lost nearly all of its regular posters..... but that's another story.
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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by mcsilks on Sun 01 Apr 2018, 9:14 am

    To play 3 at the back required the full backs to bomb forward and deliver crosses. Neither Fozzy nor Wisdom are capable of beating their man and doing just that. Fozzy has been a huge disappointment post injury.

    It also requires some mobility in midfield. Our midfield sits in front of the back four. They are defensive midfielders, so in all likelihood, this system would mean we play even deeper than we already are.

    Christie was perfect for a 3 in defensive system and GR was pretty happy to let him go. Our manager has actually made it pretty clear that despite moaning that we don't play with enough width, he is very happy to let his most effective wide players leave the club.

    I wouldn't have let JR go. He was under contract until the end of the season and a contract is a contract after all.

    If we had midfielders who could play on the wide and consistently deliver with quality from wide positions, fans wouldn't be suggesting three central defenders.

    Wisdom is another one who we have absurdly overpaid for. He is a bang average defender who offers little from an attacking angle. He's done nothing to suggest he could play as an attacking full back.
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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by Loughborough Ram on Sun 01 Apr 2018, 9:26 am

    If you look, I would have Wisdom on the right of the three not as a wing back. In the absence of Christie who I agree, would have been perfect for that role, I would play Anya purely on the basis that he's the best defensive wide man and he's played there before.
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    Post by mcsilks on Sun 01 Apr 2018, 10:06 am

    Loughborough Ram wrote:If you look, I would have Wisdom on the right of the three not as a wing back. In the absence of Christie who I agree, would have been perfect for that role, I would play Anya purely on the basis that he's the best defensive wide man and he's played there before.

    Didn't Anya play in that role for Scotland, and Wisdom in his year abroad prior to his Derby move?

    Anya is a strange one. He is out the side completely, then gets a recall simply because we had nobody else, he does really well, then he is out of the picture once again. I agree, he could be worth a try in that role if we were to play in that system.

    Still leaves the problem of what is in front of the back three though. We surely cannot play with two sitting midfielders if we have a 3 (or 5) at the back.
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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by bramhallram on Sun 01 Apr 2018, 11:28 am

    Whatever his final team selection I hope GR injects more pace and width to our play. We are so slow in moving the ball forwards we've no chance of catching opponents out.

    Our goal against Sunderland came from one of the few times we got the ball out wide and crossed it to the far post. We need to do that more often.

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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by KeoghKeogh on Sun 01 Apr 2018, 12:48 pm

    Loughborough Ram wrote:
    mcsilks wrote:

    I know you disagree with this as you have also stated that you think half of our squad could play in the Premiership but that's opinions eh.

    Are you sure I said that? Half the team?

    You certainly didn't fella!
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    Post by New England Ram on Sun 01 Apr 2018, 1:44 pm

    bramhallram wrote:Whatever his final team selection I hope GR injects more pace and width to our play. We are so slow in moving the ball forwards we've no chance of catching opponents out.

    Our goal against Sunderland came from one of the few times we got the ball out wide and crossed it to the far post. We need to do that more often.

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    Totally agree Bram..plus I know he wasn’t playing the other night but I think we totally under use Huddlestones ability to be direct and accurate.



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    Re: Team V Preston

    Post by asotrsott on Sun 01 Apr 2018, 4:55 pm

    Flog Forsyth, Keogh, Them 2 in in the Prem???? be a joke!
    and Johnson,.....No Pride, Passion, just pounds!

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