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    Wolves 2-0 Derby reports and comments

    Post by RRC on Wed 11 Apr 2018, 9:46 pm

    Derby made no changes to the team or bench that beat Bolton –
          Carson
          Wisdom Pearce Davies Baird
          Huddlestone Ledley
          Weimann Vydra Lawrence
          Nugent
          subs – Roos Keogh Forsyth Hanson Palmer Jerome Thomas
    Wolves made one change to the team that beat Cardiff with Cavaleiro replacing Bonatini.

    Derby attacked from the start and won a corner. They din't press when Wolves had the ball, but defended high balls well,
    and counter-attacked quickly when as they won the ball back. On 6 minutes Jota, who was unmarked, made an excellent
    run into a huge empty space in the Derby box. Carson had no chance when Jota’s instant control allowed him to lob the
    ball over the keeper to score. From that point Wolves stroked the ball around confidently while the Rams chased. They
    won plenty of corners and free kicks around the box and had some narrow misses on goal.

    The biggest difference between the sides was Wolves’ technical skill. The accuracy of their passing and their first touch
    control made it easy for them to keep the ball for long periods and use it better than Derby. The Rams’ slower movement,
    less accurate passing and inferior control often got them into trouble. Wolves’ fierce harrying and frequent fouls meant
    that Derby’s rare attacks were quickly snuffed out. Lawrence and Vydra battled hard but they were often closely marked
    by by two players. This wasn’t a terrible performance by Derby against a better team and they did well to keep the score
    down to a single goal.
    HT Wolves 1–0 Derby

    The second half continued Wolves’ dominance and an early corner led to a spectacular goal by Neves on 51 minutes.
    Derby headed the corner well clear of the penalty area but Neves controlled the ball with one touch and volleyed it into
    the net, giving the defence no chance. The Rams tried hard to attack but their best moves were ended by deliberate
    fouls around the box, giving the Wolves’ defence time to re-group before the free kick. Carson made another magnificent
    save from a Jota shot after a rapid break by Wolves. The referee finally found his yellow card when his assistant alerted
    him to another cynical foul on Vydra.

    The Rams had few problems when Wolves tried speculative high balls but found it very difficult to defend against their
    quick, tricky forwards. Palmer replaced Ledley on 72 minutes. Derby’s final substitutions cameon 82 and 84 minutes
    when Nugent was replaced by Jerome, and Hanson came on for Vydra who, along with Lawrence, had been limping for
    while. Wolves continued to attack but were less threatening than before. As so often this season, a bad mistake which
    led to a goal put Derby on the back foot from early in the match and made the game much easier for their opponents.
    FT Wolves 2–0 Derby

    Wolves’ win moved them to two points from promotion. Derby (68 points) remain 5th on goal difference. On Tuesday,
    Villa (4th, 76) beat Cardiff (3rd, 80), which allowed Fulham (2nd, 81) to move up to 2nd place. Millwall’s win took them
    up to 6th with 68 points, overtaking Middlesbrough (7th, 66), who lost to Sheffield United (9th, 65). The chasing pack -
    Bristol City (8th, 65), Brentford (10th, 64) and Preston (11th, 63) - all won.


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    Re: Wolves 2-0 Derby reports and comments

    Post by KeoghKeogh on Wed 11 Apr 2018, 10:10 pm

    Derby Taverners League defending from Baird for their first - awful.

    There were too many instances of poor technique from too many of our players when on the ball / 'attempting' to get on the ball.

    Whilst their second was outstanding, their boy wouldn't have done it had Lawrence made a bit more effort to close him down... or had it not needed Hanson to come onto the field to let him know that it's a contact sport.

    As with the skilful youngsters of Leeds, Brentford and Fulham, Wolves made Derby look like a team of old men tonight.

    At least it was only 2.
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    Post by valakari on Thu 12 Apr 2018, 5:16 am

    Keogh keogh...what about Pearce managing to kick himself in the face with the ball..bloody impressive from your chosen centre half..takes some skill that does!
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    Re: Wolves 2-0 Derby reports and comments

    Post by Calif_Ramette on Thu 12 Apr 2018, 5:22 am

    valakari wrote:Keogh keogh...what about Pearce managing to kick himself in the face with the ball..bloody impressive from your chosen centre half..takes some skill that does!

    I bet he didn't even know he had that skill until he did it.
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    Post by MadAmster on Thu 12 Apr 2018, 7:20 am

    Game plan screwed in the 6th minute by a great cross and a great run and volley. We were lost from there on in. They caused us a lot of problems without ever looking that dangerous. We failed to cause them problems. They scored 2, apart from that Carson had a 1st half free kick to tip over the bar and a 2nd half shot from Jota to deal with. Their keeper had one 1st half 25 yarder from Huddlestone to contend with and that was straight at him. Their second was a "worldy".

    The problem was that they were way more lively. They got almost every 2nd phase ball and when in possession had a choice of outlets because they seem to know the old adage of "when not in possession get in position" and made themselves readily available to receive a pass.

    I thought the ref was pretty damned lenient on Wolves.

    No shame in losing to the best side in the League but you do have to ask why we set up to let them play their natural game........

    At least I got the score right.
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    Post by Loughborough Ram on Thu 12 Apr 2018, 8:35 am

    To be fair the first goal was everything last night. So to give awaysuch a poor defensive one so early threw every plan out of the window. I'm sure that the plan was probably similar to the one against Man Utd, keep it tight, try and stay 0-0 as long as possible and then try a nick it when Palmer and Jerome come on but 6 minutes in they score so what do you do? If you open up you probably take a beating and f*ck up your goal difference. Carry on with the original plan and you might just nick a draw. When the secong goes in it seemed that everyone was happy so it was game over.

    This wasn't a game that any of us had a real hope of points so to throw the kitchen sink at it and take a beating was always unlikely. So now focus on Burton and go from there because if we beat Burton and Barnsley any of the teams currently outside the top six would need to win 3 out of their last 4 games to overtake us, a big ask at this time in the season, especially when some of them are playing each other.
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    Re: Wolves 2-0 Derby reports and comments

    Post by rob on Thu 12 Apr 2018, 8:58 am

    it is now far too tight - our goal difference may be the thing that keeps us in the top six but I don't give a cat in hells chance of our chances
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    Re: Wolves 2-0 Derby reports and comments

    Post by whestonram on Thu 12 Apr 2018, 10:01 am

    Loughborough Ram wrote:To be fair the first goal was everything last night. So to give awaysuch a poor defensive one so early threw every plan out of the window. I'm sure that the plan was probably similar to the one against Man Utd, keep it tight, try and stay 0-0 as long as possible and then try a nick it when Palmer and Jerome come on but 6 minutes in they score so what do you do? If you open up you probably take a beating and f*ck up your goal difference. Carry on with the original plan and you might just nick a draw. When the secong goes in it seemed that everyone was happy so it was game over.

    This wasn't a game that any of us had a real hope of points so to throw the kitchen sink at it and take a beating was always unlikely. So now focus on Burton and go from there because if we beat Burton and Barnsley any of the teams currently outside the top six would need to win 3 out of their last 4 games to overtake us, a big ask at this time in the season, especially when some of them are playing each other.

    I think that's exactly right. We were undone by a moment of ridiculous defending, then finished off by a ridiculously brilliant goal. Taking the game to them would have been like starting a fight with Anthony Joshua
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    Re: Wolves 2-0 Derby reports and comments

    Post by MadAmster on Thu 12 Apr 2018, 10:52 am

    Depends on your perspective. If Vydra had scored that first one for us from a Huddlestone ball we would be saying great vision and ditto ball from Hudds and great running by Vyds to lose his marker, get into space and volley the ball into the net over the keeper.......

    ..... as it is, the defence screwed up. Which of course they didnt as we deploy zonal marking so Jota was nobody's man to mark in the first place..... but they tried an offside trap, which wasn't part of the game plan and not something they work on (quote: GR in his RamsTV post match interview) so maybe they did screw up after all.

    Depends on your perspective and whether you are a half full or half empty person.
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    Re: Wolves 2-0 Derby reports and comments

    Post by DavesaRam on Thu 12 Apr 2018, 10:04 pm

    Poor Matej Vydra! It would seem he is the new Johnny Russell because it seems every team wants to hack him down at every opportunity. I had commented on the previous night's Villa v Cardiff match how dirty and cynical Colin's team were. I mentioned it to a mate at work who is a Villa man and he said "Wolves are just as physical and cynical". An so it turned out, with Lawrence also enjoying their personal service. It was probably in the region of a dozen or so fouls on Vydra before the ref produced a yellow card, after which the fouls seemed to stop!

    We started unusually brightly and appeared to have the potential to threaten the Wolves defence. That all changed with some kindergarten defending and a superbly taken goal. My son texted me "Game Lost". I disagreed, it was "Game Over". We lost the game because of tactics and formation, with us setting up to not lose, regardless of the bright start. The goal put Wolves in control, and our plan of soaking up the pressure and hit on the counter attack left us doing a lot of chasing around. The difference between the teams was demonstrated by Wolves players finding their men with their passes, which weren't just near the intended team-mate but to feet and placed so as to let him either move on with the ball or ping it quickly to the next team-mate. I have mentioned this before, but our level of control is not impressive with our players at best having to stop or turn or go back to get the ball. We are also too ponderous when we have the ball, so our build up play is somewhat ponderous. No matter, because we can always boot it long up the field.

    Our standing off waiting to block the cross or through ball played into Wolves hands because of their better control and movement. Sadly we were yet again completely unwilling to change what wasn't working. We just kept plugging away for 70 minutes without the sharpness and flair our game was crying out for. And when the only player who seems to be able to liven things up came on, Rowett played him as defensive midfielder. There is scope for a flair DM, but Palmer shouldn't be played there.

    I had hoped that the score would only be around 2 - 0, and we were playing what is not far off a Premiership side, so no shame in that. It would have been good to see us try and make something of the match, even when it had gone to 1 - 0 so early. I don't mean a gung-ho devil may care approach, but a desire to do something different, such as change the formation and have an extra pllayer in midfield, especially if that extra player can change the game.

    And despite us playing gently, gently with Tom Lawrence's confidence, the winger only came up with a free-kick low and straight into the wall, and crosses which either went to the first defender or out for a throw in on the far side of the pitch. Luke Thomas was there and waiting to do what he can do, but wasn't let loose. Shame.

    Oh well, on to the Burton match, where we should at least be able to hold out for a point.
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    Re: Wolves 2-0 Derby reports and comments

    Post by KeoghKeogh on Fri 13 Apr 2018, 10:16 pm

    valakari wrote:Keogh keogh...what about Pearce managing to kick himself in the face with the ball..bloody impressive from your chosen centre half..takes some skill that does!

    Davies is a better captain than Keogh. The team is better with Keogh out of the side. Pearce is the available CH.

    I have no particular affinity with Pearce, although I do think that he has done well overall since he has been brought back in to the side.

    Pearce can kick the ball in his face every game for me, providing that Davies is the captain and Keogh is not on the pitch.

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