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    The rest of the way

    Post by New England Ram on Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:42 am

    Rowett said yesterday that he was trying for a bit of continuity with his team selection after victory’s over Preston and Bolton and that’s why he stuck with the same team after the Wolves game.

    Clearly that didn’t work for him yesterday.

    What would you have him do tactically and team selection wise for the remaining games.
    With the squad we have he is obviously limited in how much he can change personnel.
    But despite him scoring yesterday and despite how much I like him Nugent is clearly not going to pull up any trees..nor is his back up signing from Norwich..
    But what alternatives are there ? Do something obscure and stick Palmer and Weimann up there for speed and mobility and play direct and quick and pray they can chase things down !

    Not saying that’s the answer but surely we Rowett now has to try something out of the ordinary to make us less predictable or easily scouted by the remainder of our opponents.

    Then we also have the defending Afraid

    What we got left to try ?



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    Re: The rest of the way

    Post by MadAmster on Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:12 pm

    We could try having more than 2 midfielders to get overrun by the 4 or 5 the opposition play......
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    Re: The rest of the way

    Post by CornwallRam on Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:12 pm

    I don't think that this is the time for doing anything radical. The players are used to 4231 and it is the system which got us to 2nd. We can still get promoted, so it has to be a case of trying to motivate the players to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Our big issue appears to be the lack of Johnny Russell. I've thought about this quite a lot and I reckon that the reason is that he was the one player who gained us ground. He would regularly get the ball and drive forwards. OK the end of that run regularly amounted to nothing, but it gave the defence 10 seconds to regroup and made the opposition work hard to stop him. The whole game moved 20 yards towards their goal. Without him in the side we play deeper and don't make the opposition work as hard. His defensive abilities, occasional goal and regular gaining of free kicks/penalties are also missed. For me, Anya is the one player we have who similarly drives forward, so he should start games to recreate the 'Russell' effect.

    During the summer I think we need to find a new system - assuming we don't actually scrape promotion. I always prefer 352. It is solid at the back and flexible in attack. It does, however, require lots of practice to get used to. If we switched to that now we'd just lose every game.

    That said, I think we really need to adopt 442 as our main formation. It's not big, it's not clever and it's not innovative. Yet, 29 of the last 33 sides promoted have used it. It has the massive advantage of being a system that every player is comfortable with it. It doesn't rely on specialists like Chris Martin, Igor Stimac or Matej Vydra to work. Teams can't stop us by simply marking our 'key man' out of the game. 442 just takes 11 solid professionals who are fit, motivated and organised - that's what get's you promoted from this league.
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    Re: The rest of the way

    Post by valakari on Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:31 pm

    Well Wolves don't play 442!
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    Re: The rest of the way

    Post by New England Ram on Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:35 pm

    CornwallRam wrote:I don't think that this is the time for doing anything radical. The players are used to 4231 and it is the system which got us to 2nd. We can still get promoted, so it has to be a case of trying to motivate the players to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Our big issue appears to be the lack of Johnny Russell. I've thought about this quite a lot and I reckon that the reason is that he was the one player who gained us ground. He would regularly get the ball and drive forwards. OK the end of that run regularly amounted to nothing, but it gave the defence 10 seconds to regroup and made the opposition work hard to stop him. The whole game moved 20 yards towards their goal. Without him in the side we play deeper and don't make the opposition work as hard. His defensive abilities, occasional goal and regular gaining of free kicks/penalties are also missed. For me, Anya is the one player we have who similarly drives forward, so he should start games to recreate the 'Russell' effect.

    During the summer I think we need to find a new system - assuming we don't actually scrape promotion. I always prefer 352. It is solid at the back and flexible in attack. It does, however, require lots of practice to get used to. If we switched to that now we'd just lose every game.

    That said, I think we really need to adopt 442 as our main formation. It's not big, it's not clever and it's not innovative. Yet, 29 of the last 33 sides promoted have used it. It has the massive advantage of being a system that every player is comfortable with it. It doesn't rely on specialists like Chris Martin, Igor Stimac or Matej Vydra to work. Teams can't stop us by simply marking our 'key man' out of the game. 442 just takes 11 solid professionals who are fit, motivated and organised - that's what get's you promoted from this league.

    People have laughed at the Russell factor but I agree.
    Nobody could carry the ball like he did and on a bad day at the very least he was buying us a throw in in the opposition half.

    I hear you regarding not changing anything..on the other hand if we start the next game at the same pace with the same style I fear a revolt from sections of our fan base..
    That said I’m not sure there’s much we can do to change anyway unless it’s a totally obscure move.



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    Re: The rest of the way

    Post by CornwallRam on Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:47 pm

    New England Ram wrote:
    CornwallRam wrote:I don't think that this is the time for doing anything radical. The players are used to 4231 and it is the system which got us to 2nd. We can still get promoted, so it has to be a case of trying to motivate the players to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Our big issue appears to be the lack of Johnny Russell. I've thought about this quite a lot and I reckon that the reason is that he was the one player who gained us ground. He would regularly get the ball and drive forwards. OK the end of that run regularly amounted to nothing, but it gave the defence 10 seconds to regroup and made the opposition work hard to stop him. The whole game moved 20 yards towards their goal. Without him in the side we play deeper and don't make the opposition work as hard. His defensive abilities, occasional goal and regular gaining of free kicks/penalties are also missed. For me, Anya is the one player we have who similarly drives forward, so he should start games to recreate the 'Russell' effect.

    During the summer I think we need to find a new system - assuming we don't actually scrape promotion. I always prefer 352. It is solid at the back and flexible in attack. It does, however, require lots of practice to get used to. If we switched to that now we'd just lose every game.

    That said, I think we really need to adopt 442 as our main formation. It's not big, it's not clever and it's not innovative. Yet, 29 of the last 33 sides promoted have used it. It has the massive advantage of being a system that every player is comfortable with it. It doesn't rely on specialists like Chris Martin, Igor Stimac or Matej Vydra to work. Teams can't stop us by simply marking our 'key man' out of the game. 442 just takes 11 solid professionals who are fit, motivated and organised - that's what get's you promoted from this league.

    People have laughed at the Russell factor but I agree.
    Nobody could carry the ball like he did and on a bad day at the very least he was buying us a throw in in the opposition half.

    I hear you regarding not changing anything..on the other hand if we start the next game at the same pace with the same style I fear a revolt from sections of our fan base..
    That said I’m not sure there’s much we can do to change anyway unless it’s a totally obscure move.

    A lot of our fans are revolting anyway LOL roll
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    Re: The rest of the way

    Post by New England Ram on Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:52 pm

    CornwallRam wrote:
    New England Ram wrote:
    CornwallRam wrote:I don't think that this is the time for doing anything radical. The players are used to 4231 and it is the system which got us to 2nd. We can still get promoted, so it has to be a case of trying to motivate the players to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Our big issue appears to be the lack of Johnny Russell. I've thought about this quite a lot and I reckon that the reason is that he was the one player who gained us ground. He would regularly get the ball and drive forwards. OK the end of that run regularly amounted to nothing, but it gave the defence 10 seconds to regroup and made the opposition work hard to stop him. The whole game moved 20 yards towards their goal. Without him in the side we play deeper and don't make the opposition work as hard. His defensive abilities, occasional goal and regular gaining of free kicks/penalties are also missed. For me, Anya is the one player we have who similarly drives forward, so he should start games to recreate the 'Russell' effect.

    During the summer I think we need to find a new system - assuming we don't actually scrape promotion. I always prefer 352. It is solid at the back and flexible in attack. It does, however, require lots of practice to get used to. If we switched to that now we'd just lose every game.

    That said, I think we really need to adopt 442 as our main formation. It's not big, it's not clever and it's not innovative. Yet, 29 of the last 33 sides promoted have used it. It has the massive advantage of being a system that every player is comfortable with it. It doesn't rely on specialists like Chris Martin, Igor Stimac or Matej Vydra to work. Teams can't stop us by simply marking our 'key man' out of the game. 442 just takes 11 solid professionals who are fit, motivated and organised - that's what get's you promoted from this league.

    People have laughed at the Russell factor but I agree.
    Nobody could carry the ball like he did and on a bad day at the very least he was buying us a throw in in the opposition half.

    I hear you regarding not changing anything..on the other hand if we start the next game at the same pace with the same style I fear a revolt from sections of our fan base..
    That said I’m not sure there’s much we can do to change anyway unless it’s a totally obscure move.

    A lot of our fans are revolting anyway LOL roll

    I know I mean taking it to the next level ..throwing pies and scarves



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    Re: The rest of the way

    Post by CornwallRam on Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:52 pm

    valakari wrote:Well Wolves don't play 442!

    Very true, but they spent serious cash bringing in specialist players. FFP means that you can only do that once if you don't have parachute payments. We've wasted our splurge, so now have to find a way to get promoted with a mid-table budget...or convince 23 other clubs to get rid of FFP.
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    Re: The rest of the way

    Post by CornwallRam on Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:55 pm

    New England Ram wrote:
    CornwallRam wrote:
    New England Ram wrote:
    CornwallRam wrote:I don't think that this is the time for doing anything radical. The players are used to 4231 and it is the system which got us to 2nd. We can still get promoted, so it has to be a case of trying to motivate the players to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Our big issue appears to be the lack of Johnny Russell. I've thought about this quite a lot and I reckon that the reason is that he was the one player who gained us ground. He would regularly get the ball and drive forwards. OK the end of that run regularly amounted to nothing, but it gave the defence 10 seconds to regroup and made the opposition work hard to stop him. The whole game moved 20 yards towards their goal. Without him in the side we play deeper and don't make the opposition work as hard. His defensive abilities, occasional goal and regular gaining of free kicks/penalties are also missed. For me, Anya is the one player we have who similarly drives forward, so he should start games to recreate the 'Russell' effect.

    During the summer I think we need to find a new system - assuming we don't actually scrape promotion. I always prefer 352. It is solid at the back and flexible in attack. It does, however, require lots of practice to get used to. If we switched to that now we'd just lose every game.

    That said, I think we really need to adopt 442 as our main formation. It's not big, it's not clever and it's not innovative. Yet, 29 of the last 33 sides promoted have used it. It has the massive advantage of being a system that every player is comfortable with it. It doesn't rely on specialists like Chris Martin, Igor Stimac or Matej Vydra to work. Teams can't stop us by simply marking our 'key man' out of the game. 442 just takes 11 solid professionals who are fit, motivated and organised - that's what get's you promoted from this league.

    People have laughed at the Russell factor but I agree.
    Nobody could carry the ball like he did and on a bad day at the very least he was buying us a throw in in the opposition half.

    I hear you regarding not changing anything..on the other hand if we start the next game at the same pace with the same style I fear a revolt from sections of our fan base..
    That said I’m not sure there’s much we can do to change anyway unless it’s a totally obscure move.

    A lot of our fans are revolting anyway LOL roll

    I know I mean taking it to the next level ..throwing pies and scarves

    They won't throw pies...they cost too much and it takes too long to get served.
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    Re: The rest of the way

    Post by New England Ram on Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:08 pm

    CornwallRam wrote:
    New England Ram wrote:
    CornwallRam wrote:
    New England Ram wrote:
    CornwallRam wrote:I don't think that this is the time for doing anything radical. The players are used to 4231 and it is the system which got us to 2nd. We can still get promoted, so it has to be a case of trying to motivate the players to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Our big issue appears to be the lack of Johnny Russell. I've thought about this quite a lot and I reckon that the reason is that he was the one player who gained us ground. He would regularly get the ball and drive forwards. OK the end of that run regularly amounted to nothing, but it gave the defence 10 seconds to regroup and made the opposition work hard to stop him. The whole game moved 20 yards towards their goal. Without him in the side we play deeper and don't make the opposition work as hard. His defensive abilities, occasional goal and regular gaining of free kicks/penalties are also missed. For me, Anya is the one player we have who similarly drives forward, so he should start games to recreate the 'Russell' effect.

    During the summer I think we need to find a new system - assuming we don't actually scrape promotion. I always prefer 352. It is solid at the back and flexible in attack. It does, however, require lots of practice to get used to. If we switched to that now we'd just lose every game.

    That said, I think we really need to adopt 442 as our main formation. It's not big, it's not clever and it's not innovative. Yet, 29 of the last 33 sides promoted have used it. It has the massive advantage of being a system that every player is comfortable with it. It doesn't rely on specialists like Chris Martin, Igor Stimac or Matej Vydra to work. Teams can't stop us by simply marking our 'key man' out of the game. 442 just takes 11 solid professionals who are fit, motivated and organised - that's what get's you promoted from this league.

    People have laughed at the Russell factor but I agree.
    Nobody could carry the ball like he did and on a bad day at the very least he was buying us a throw in in the opposition half.

    I hear you regarding not changing anything..on the other hand if we start the next game at the same pace with the same style I fear a revolt from sections of our fan base..
    That said I’m not sure there’s much we can do to change anyway unless it’s a totally obscure move.

    A lot of our fans are revolting anyway LOL roll

    I know I mean taking it to the next level ..throwing pies and scarves

    They won't throw pies...they cost too much and it takes too long to get served.

    Exactly you know if pies are flying it’s serious..last time I saw flying pies they were being thrown at us at Turf Moor by irate Burnley fans Easter Monday 1975 as we hammered them 5-2..there were coins and rocks as well mind.




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