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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by outsider on Tue 22 May 2018, 9:07 pm

    outsider wrote:Just got text of a rumour stoke stumbling due to Rowett  demanding to much money,,,, like said a rumour, any one else heard this


    Was bulshit obviously as he gone signed for stoke Anger


    https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/derby-county-rowett-live-news-1592491


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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by New England Ram on Tue 22 May 2018, 9:09 pm

    Fu** Him



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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by Loughborough Ram on Tue 22 May 2018, 9:15 pm

    The king is dead, long live the king.

    We need something from Mel Morris pretty sharpish in my opinion.
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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by ShardlowSheep on Tue 22 May 2018, 9:34 pm

    Annoyed, was finally hoping for some stability. Never dull being a Derbyfan. We need to move quick to get someone decent in.
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    Post by outsider on Tue 22 May 2018, 9:38 pm

    ShardlowSheep wrote:Annoyed, was finally hoping for some stability. Never dull being a Derbyfan. We need to move quick to get someone decent in.

    And keep carson here to Fingers crossed
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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by Ram78 on Tue 22 May 2018, 9:41 pm

    You can’t deny Ambition, but to use us as a stepping stone and blatantly lying over the future plans he had shows what a man he is, will not be wishing him the best.
    I fear he may of set us back a few years now with his recruitment and it’s a big rebuild for the next poor sod, Mel needs the right man for the job but it maybe Wassall or Phillips and work with what we’ve got and a few kids put in.
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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by outsider on Tue 22 May 2018, 9:57 pm

    https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gary-rowett-reaction-stoke-derby-1597872


    Not a god statement after walking out on derby,, the words ambitious club stands out alot
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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by casinoram on Tue 22 May 2018, 10:15 pm

    outsider wrote:https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gary-rowett-reaction-stoke-derby-1597872


    Not a god statement after walking out on derby,, the words ambitious club stands out alot

    kind of tells us that its going to be an "unambitious" summer doesn't it.

    Sad to say that we don't have the ability or funds to compete to even get out of the championship!!
    Such is the way football is going- We need to be bought out by an Asian consortium.


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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by Stockport Ram on Tue 22 May 2018, 10:20 pm

    My reply on an almost intelligent NFFC website:

    "Disappointed but not surprised.

    To lose a half decent manager - the first to make the team better than the sum total of its parts since Nigel Clough - to a team whose most famous moment was created by George Eastham's left foot is somewhat irksome, but it just shows how obscene Premiership money
    can make a team significantly smaller than both of us become more attractive than either of us.

    I try to console myself with the facts that, over the past five seasons, we have finished 8,6,11,11 and 12 places above you, having obtained 16,22,23,18 and 20 points more respectively, but it doesn't help.

    The gap will be much much closer next year. Heaven forbid, you might actually finish above us.

    There are primary school children who weren't born the last time that happened..."







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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by New England Ram on Tue 22 May 2018, 11:05 pm

    casinoram wrote:
    outsider wrote:https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gary-rowett-reaction-stoke-derby-1597872


    Not a god statement after walking out on derby,, the words ambitious club stands out alot

    kind of tells us that its going to be an "unambitious" summer doesn't it.

    Sad to say that we don't have the ability or funds to compete to even get out of the championship!!
    Such is the way football is going- We need to be bought out by an Asian consortium.



    I wonder if Mel might be tempted to find a few more quid now that Rowett has had a sly dig.
    And I still expect us to be sold to the Chinese within the next two years.



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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by New England Ram on Wed 23 May 2018, 1:38 am

    There will be those amongst us who will be very happy with this still somewhat unexpected turn of events.
    Those that didn’t like his style and wanted him out.
    I for one backed him and was prepared to give him time to stabilize the club in the manner that Nigel did but with a bit more going for him than Nigel.
    Always found him honest and enlightening in his interviews and open forums and I totally bought in to him being a Derby man even though I know there is no loyalty in football...especially these days.

    I do not believe that when he signed his new three year contract in January that he did not know about possible financial restraints being applied by Mel.
    I do not believe that Mel moved the goal posts all of a sudden.

    I do believe that instead of rolling his sleeves up and grafting at the job he’s jumped ship in hope of an easier option.

    So all those intelligent interviews and forums now just make him come across as a smug insincere wanker.
    I hope we don’t go down the old boy network for a manager and that we somehow think outside the box for our next adventure.

    I’m putting money on us getting promotion next season.



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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by outsider on Wed 23 May 2018, 5:20 am

    New England Ram wrote:There will be those amongst us who will be very happy with this still somewhat unexpected turn of events.
    Those that didn’t like his style and wanted him out.
    I for one backed him and was prepared to give him time to stabilize the club in the manner that Nigel did but with a bit more going for him than Nigel.
    Always found him honest and enlightening in his interviews and open forums and I totally bought in to him being a Derby man even though I know there is no loyalty in football...especially these days.

    I do not believe that when he signed his new three year contract in January that he did not know about possible financial restraints being applied by Mel.
    I do not believe that Mel moved the goal posts all of a sudden.

    I do believe that instead of rolling his sleeves up and grafting at the job he’s jumped ship in hope of an easier option.

    So all those intelligent interviews and forums now just make him come across as a smug insincere wanker.
    I hope we don’t go down the old boy network for a manager and that we somehow think outside the box for our next adventure.

    I’m putting money on us getting promotion next season.

    To be fair on most of us want a stable club to build on and not sack/lose our manager as we have been doing. No honest fan wanted to be hunting for a manger but from beginning of the season to the end it was tough to watch. We had a manager who in the end could not handle DCFC and left for easy option as you say. Alot of managers have not worked and like I have said for all his wealth the buck stops at Mels door. He needs to get it right now and God for bid me saying it give him 2years to get us back in shape. Pearson Clements SMC 2nd appointment and now rowett have been bad choices.

    Personally I would see if Chris Coleman is intrested.
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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by valakari on Wed 23 May 2018, 8:08 am

    Personally I wouldn't! Apart from Wales job, he has been a failure in club management
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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by MadAmster on Wed 23 May 2018, 10:00 am

    I am quite sure Sunderland had as much ambition as Stoke now have a year ago.......

    I think those of us "past a certain age" have to realise that these days it's only fans who have any loyalty to a club.
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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by casinoram on Wed 23 May 2018, 12:49 pm

    MadAmster wrote:I am quite sure Sunderland had as much ambition as Stoke now have a year ago.......

    I think those of us "past a certain age" have to realise that these days it's only fans who have any loyalty to a club.


    Well said... and unfortunately obviously true in all ways shapes and form!!

    Football has been sold down the "SkyQ-River". It's all about the revenue streams for the super rich. The genuine fans.... Nothing left for them.. Not even the enjoyment of watching free flowing football games!!
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    Post by SawleyRam on Wed 23 May 2018, 1:05 pm

    MadAmster wrote:I am quite sure Sunderland had as much ambition as Stoke now have a year ago.......

    I think those of us "past a certain age" have to realise that these days it's only fans who have any loyalty to a club.

    And that loyalty is now waning in the quagmire of financial mis-management and "media soundbytes" from within the game that are designed to part us from our hard earned income. A payment to Tom Ince's mother of £700,000 pounds for "scouting duties" says it all. (and that is in the published accounts). Bang head
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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by RRC on Wed 23 May 2018, 1:15 pm

    SawleyRam wrote:
    MadAmster wrote:I am quite sure Sunderland had as much ambition as Stoke now have a year ago.......

    I think those of us "past a certain age" have to realise that these days it's only fans who have any loyalty to a club.

    And that loyalty is now waning in the quagmire of financial mis-management and "media soundbytes" from within the game that are designed to part us from our hard earned income. A payment to Tom Ince's mother of £700,000 pounds for "scouting duties" says it all. (and that is in the published accounts). Bang head

    Where was she scouting -- the Bahamas, Hawaii, the Maldives?

    It beggars belief that the owner signed off that payment - and others. Frustrated



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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by MadAmster on Thu 24 May 2018, 9:01 am

    Just read a post on another forum that appealed to my wicked half.

    The basic background was that Mel has pulled off a stroke of genius. One worthy of the businessman he is.

    He was unhappy with results in 2018. Unhappy with GRs defensive tactics. They had had a series of runs in and they appeared poles apart. Mel wanted to sack GR but was loathe to bankroll yet another huge payout to a departing manager. So, he concocted a story that we were losing money hand over fist. That there was no money for incoming transfers. That the wage bill needs drastically reducing. Basically, we are kerfuffed financially. Something that goes against everything he has said about the finances at all the "Fans Fora" held in various hostelries in town over the year. GR swallows it, hook, line and sinker and goes to Stoke and we get a couple of million in compo rather than paying that or more to GR. What a classic move that would be if true.

    Move forward. Lampard and O'Neill are the bookies two top favourites to take over. Both will want, IMO, more than GR was on. It appears (OK, rumoured) the Lamps/Ipswich talks broke down as they weren't offering him enough salary. Would either of them come in without the promise of at least some money for the rebuild?

    The rumour does sound rather fictional but if we do get a high profile name in like Lamps/MoN and they get a few bob to spend, the above rumour might just gain some credence.

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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by whestonram on Thu 24 May 2018, 11:19 am

    MadAmster wrote:Just read a post on another forum that appealed to my wicked half.

    The basic background was that Mel has pulled off a stroke of genius. One worthy of the businessman he is.

    He was unhappy with results in 2018. Unhappy with GRs defensive tactics. They had had a series of runs in and they appeared poles apart. Mel wanted to sack GR but was loathe to bankroll yet another huge payout to a departing manager. So, he concocted a story that we were losing money hand over fist. That there was no money for incoming transfers. That the wage bill needs drastically reducing. Basically, we are kerfuffed financially. Something that goes against everything he has said about the finances at all the "Fans Fora" held in various hostelries in town over the year. GR swallows it, hook, line and sinker and goes to Stoke and we get a couple of million in compo rather than paying that or more to GR. What a classic move that would be if true.

    Move forward. Lampard and O'Neill are the bookies two top favourites to take over. Both will want, IMO, more than GR was on. It appears (OK, rumoured) the Lamps/Ipswich talks broke down as they weren't offering him enough salary. Would either of them come in without the promise of at least some money for the rebuild?

    The rumour does sound rather fictional but if we do get a high profile name in like Lamps/MoN and they get a few bob to spend, the above rumour might just gain some credence.

    I hope that's true, but it does sound like someone's wishful thinking!
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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by New England Ram on Thu 24 May 2018, 11:23 am

    whestonram wrote:
    MadAmster wrote:Just read a post on another forum that appealed to my wicked half.

    The basic background was that Mel has pulled off a stroke of genius. One worthy of the businessman he is.

    He was unhappy with results in 2018. Unhappy with GRs defensive tactics. They had had a series of runs in and they appeared poles apart. Mel wanted to sack GR but was loathe to bankroll yet another huge payout to a departing manager. So, he concocted a story that we were losing money hand over fist. That there was no money for incoming transfers. That the wage bill needs drastically reducing. Basically, we are kerfuffed financially. Something that goes against everything he has said about the finances at all the "Fans Fora" held in various hostelries in town over the year. GR swallows it, hook, line and sinker and goes to Stoke and we get a couple of million in compo rather than paying that or more to GR. What a classic move that would be if true.

    Move forward. Lampard and O'Neill are the bookies two top favourites to take over. Both will want, IMO, more than GR was on. It appears (OK, rumoured) the Lamps/Ipswich talks broke down as they weren't offering him enough salary. Would either of them come in without the promise of at least some money for the rebuild?

    The rumour does sound rather fictional but if we do get a high profile name in like Lamps/MoN and they get a few bob to spend, the above rumour might just gain some credence.

    I hope that's true, but it does sound like someone's wishful thinking!

    I on the other hand have heard the Mel has had enough and wants his money back.



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    Post by whestonram on Thu 24 May 2018, 12:51 pm

    New England Ram wrote:
    whestonram wrote:
    MadAmster wrote:Just read a post on another forum that appealed to my wicked half.

    The basic background was that Mel has pulled off a stroke of genius. One worthy of the businessman he is.

    He was unhappy with results in 2018. Unhappy with GRs defensive tactics. They had had a series of runs in and they appeared poles apart. Mel wanted to sack GR but was loathe to bankroll yet another huge payout to a departing manager. So, he concocted a story that we were losing money hand over fist. That there was no money for incoming transfers. That the wage bill needs drastically reducing. Basically, we are kerfuffed financially. Something that goes against everything he has said about the finances at all the "Fans Fora" held in various hostelries in town over the year. GR swallows it, hook, line and sinker and goes to Stoke and we get a couple of million in compo rather than paying that or more to GR. What a classic move that would be if true.

    Move forward. Lampard and O'Neill are the bookies two top favourites to take over. Both will want, IMO, more than GR was on. It appears (OK, rumoured) the Lamps/Ipswich talks broke down as they weren't offering him enough salary. Would either of them come in without the promise of at least some money for the rebuild?

    The rumour does sound rather fictional but if we do get a high profile name in like Lamps/MoN and they get a few bob to spend, the above rumour might just gain some credence.

    I hope that's true, but it does sound like someone's wishful thinking!

    I on the other hand have heard the Mel has had enough and wants his money back.

    He'll be lucky! How do you get money back wasted on the likes of Butterfield and Blackman, or on giving Chris Martin a big new contract only to send him out on loan again!
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    Re: Rowett to Stoke? rumour comes up again

    Post by Stockport Ram on Thu 24 May 2018, 4:45 pm

    RRC wrote:
    SawleyRam wrote:
    MadAmster wrote:I am quite sure Sunderland had as much ambition as Stoke now have a year ago.......

    I think those of us "past a certain age" have to realise that these days it's only fans who have any loyalty to a club.

    And that loyalty is now waning in the quagmire of financial mis-management and "media soundbytes" from within the game that are designed to part us from our hard earned income. A payment to Tom Ince's mother of £700,000 pounds for "scouting duties" says it all. (and that is in the published accounts). Bang head

    Where was she scouting -- the Bahamas, Hawaii, the Maldives?

    It beggars belief that the owner signed off that payment - and others. Frustrated

    Perhaps....just perhaps.....he didn't.

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    Post by chicken on Thu 24 May 2018, 4:56 pm

    Stockport Ram wrote:
    RRC wrote:
    SawleyRam wrote:
    MadAmster wrote:I am quite sure Sunderland had as much ambition as Stoke now have a year ago.......

    I think those of us "past a certain age" have to realise that these days it's only fans who have any loyalty to a club.

    And that loyalty is now waning in the quagmire of financial mis-management and "media soundbytes" from within the game that are designed to part us from our hard earned income. A payment to Tom Ince's mother of £700,000 pounds for "scouting duties" says it all. (and that is in the published accounts). Bang head

    Where was she scouting -- the Bahamas, Hawaii, the Maldives?

    It beggars belief that the owner signed off that payment - and others. Frustrated

    Perhaps....just perhaps.....he didn't.

    He didn’t.
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    Post by Stockport Ram on Thu 24 May 2018, 5:28 pm

    chicken wrote:
    Stockport Ram wrote:
    RRC wrote:
    SawleyRam wrote:
    MadAmster wrote:I am quite sure Sunderland had as much ambition as Stoke now have a year ago.......

    I think those of us "past a certain age" have to realise that these days it's only fans who have any loyalty to a club.

    And that loyalty is now waning in the quagmire of financial mis-management and "media soundbytes" from within the game that are designed to part us from our hard earned income. A payment to Tom Ince's mother of £700,000 pounds for "scouting duties" says it all. (and that is in the published accounts). Bang head

    Where was she scouting -- the Bahamas, Hawaii, the Maldives?

    It beggars belief that the owner signed off that payment - and others. Frustrated

    Perhaps....just perhaps.....he didn't.

    He didn’t.

    I just didn't fancy being sued Chicken ! Whistle

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    Post by chicken on Thu 24 May 2018, 5:50 pm

    Stockport Ram wrote:
    chicken wrote:
    Stockport Ram wrote:
    RRC wrote:
    SawleyRam wrote:
    MadAmster wrote:I am quite sure Sunderland had as much ambition as Stoke now have a year ago.......

    I think those of us "past a certain age" have to realise that these days it's only fans who have any loyalty to a club.

    And that loyalty is now waning in the quagmire of financial mis-management and "media soundbytes" from within the game that are designed to part us from our hard earned income. A payment to Tom Ince's mother of £700,000 pounds for "scouting duties" says it all. (and that is in the published accounts). Bang head

    Where was she scouting -- the Bahamas, Hawaii, the Maldives?

    It beggars belief that the owner signed off that payment - and others. Frustrated

    Perhaps....just perhaps.....he didn't.

    He didn’t.

    I just didn't fancy being sued Chicken ! Whistle


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