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    Loughborough Ram

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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by Loughborough Ram on Thu 24 May 2018, 9:42 am

    outsider wrote:
    Loughborough Ram wrote:If it is Lampard then the most important thing he will do is the appointment of his right hand man.

    Get it right and Mel could have pulled off a stroke of genius, get it wrong and his managerial career could be over before it started.

    his uncle will be at hand ?

    I really don't want Harry involved, every club he has been involved with has suffered years of financial hardship following his departure. I like his football ethos but he always pays way over the odds to support it.
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by RRC on Thu 24 May 2018, 9:48 am

    UPDATE - The Daily Mirror says that MM has narrowed his choice to just three --

    Carlos Carvahal
    Dean Smith
    Mick McCarthy


    Please, please, please not McCarthy.
    At the very least, it will be too confusing to have an owner and manager
    with the same initials - I foresee us struggling to guess who is meant in
    our forum posts.



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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by Loughborough Ram on Thu 24 May 2018, 10:19 am

    Well if the mirror says it is these three I think it's fairly safe to say that it definitely won't be any of these three
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by outsider on Thu 24 May 2018, 10:21 am

    RRC wrote:UPDATE - The Daily Mirror says that MM has narrowed his choice to just three --

    Carlos Carvahal
    Dean Smith
    Mick McCarthy
    Afraid

    Please, please, please not McCarthy.
    At the very least, it will be too confusing to have an owner and manager
    with the same initials - I foresee us struggling to guess who is meant in
    our forum posts.

    no please not McCarthy Nervous Nervous Nervous

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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by chicken on Thu 24 May 2018, 4:57 pm

    Loughborough Ram wrote:Well if the mirror says it is these three I think it's fairly safe to say that it definitely won't be any of these three

    Good.
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by SawleyRam on Thu 24 May 2018, 6:27 pm

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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by Mitten State Ram on Thu 24 May 2018, 8:56 pm

    The odds of Lampard proving just another great player unable to transition to effective management seem high, but the ceiling of how good he could be if that's not the case must be high, too. If Lampard works out, he's going to really work out. That's the bright side, such as it is.
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by CornwallRam on Thu 24 May 2018, 9:17 pm

    Mitten State Ram wrote:The odds of Lampard proving just another great player unable to transition to effective management seem high, but the ceiling of how good he could be if that's not the case must be high, too. If Lampard works out, he's going to really work out. That's the bright side, such as it is.

    No, if Lampard works out he'll be off by Christmas. There is no possible positive outcome and relegation is a very realistic negative one. And it won't be any relegation, it'll be a Redknapp style club in danger of folding relegation.
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by outsider on Thu 24 May 2018, 10:00 pm

    CornwallRam wrote:
    Mitten State Ram wrote:The odds of Lampard proving just another great player unable to transition to effective management seem high, but the ceiling of how good he could be if that's not the case must be high, too. If Lampard works out, he's going to really work out. That's the bright side, such as it is.

    No, if Lampard works out he'll be off by Christmas. There is no possible positive outcome and relegation is a very realistic negative one. And it won't be any relegation, it'll be a Redknapp style club in danger of folding relegation.

    I don't think he Will, yes it probably a stepping stone for future Chelsea manager and by being succefull here will help him. Im not jumping thro hoops over it but wtf we tried every one else.
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by Mitten State Ram on Fri 25 May 2018, 12:01 am

    Yeah, if it goes well it will take a couple of years for him to prove he's no grease fire. By that time we would be in the top flight and in good shape for the future. Of course, as I said, more likely he proves a dumpster fire than anything. But then so might every other candidate.
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by Stockport Ram on Fri 25 May 2018, 12:01 am

    CornwallRam wrote:
    Mitten State Ram wrote:The odds of Lampard proving just another great player unable to transition to effective management seem high, but the ceiling of how good he could be if that's not the case must be high, too. If Lampard works out, he's going to really work out. That's the bright side, such as it is.

    No, if Lampard works out he'll be off by Christmas. There is no possible positive outcome and relegation is a very realistic negative one. And it won't be any relegation, it'll be a Redknapp style club in danger of folding relegation.


    With our history of bottling it as soon as daffodils appear in January?  The smart money will see if he can guide us through our habitual spring minefield first. If he can,  then fair enough....he may well disappear at the end of next season but if he gets us up in the process, then maybe that's not too bad.


    ps - I expect him to leave in early November,  when we are in the bottom six.
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by Mitten State Ram on Fri 25 May 2018, 2:06 am

    I just saw the Telegraph speculating that Lampard could bring Uncle Harry with him in some capacity. Double the star power could double the ego, treble the hands on the rudder and amplify the scale of disaster. But Redknapp can hardly be bested for experience. They could make a formidable team, and maybe they have as much to gain from Derby as we from them. Bugger knows... Hope springs eternal.
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by valakari on Fri 25 May 2018, 5:50 am

    But FFP also includes wages ...surely we don't need to be giving 'arry more millions!
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by terminaator on Fri 25 May 2018, 7:01 am


    If its Lampard then its yet another wrong decision.
    No managerial experience, just a famous name....
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by MadAmster on Fri 25 May 2018, 7:16 am

    terminaator wrote:

    If its Lampard then its yet another wrong decision.
    No managerial experience, just a famous name....

    Which makes it no more of a gamble than bringing in anybody else.

    Giggs' first managerial job is Wales.

    Phil Neville's first job is England Ladies (never thought I'd use him to try and make a positive point).

    Neither has yet had the time to screw up but neither have they screwed up on their first few games........

    Yes, Lampard would be a gamble. But so would, McCarthy or Cowell or Warburton or any of the other 40 odd people mentioned by bookies, Media and fans online.
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by Stockport Ram on Fri 25 May 2018, 8:23 am

    Harry allegedly had a million quid for 6 weeks work with Wassall...That's over £8m a year !

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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by rob on Fri 25 May 2018, 8:43 am

    I have never understood the love in for 'arry - he syphons of transfer money for his dog (allegedly) - leaves clubs in massive debt has has an ego the size of 0.643 billy davies.

    If he comes I will resume my boycott of the rams until he is sacked.

    No real feelings about Lampard - could be genious or disaster - like someone else said - just like most of the other names mentioned - but MM's track record is not good - and don't get Mick McCarthy anywhere near the interview room never mind the managers office.
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by CornwallRam on Fri 25 May 2018, 9:37 am

    MadAmster wrote:
    terminaator wrote:

    If its Lampard then its yet another wrong decision.
    No managerial experience, just a famous name....

    Which makes it no more of a gamble than bringing in anybody else.

    Giggs' first managerial job is Wales.

    Phil Neville's first job is England Ladies (never thought I'd use him to try and make a positive point).

    Neither has yet had the time to screw up but neither have they screwed up on their first few games........

    Yes, Lampard would be a gamble. But so would, McCarthy or Cowell or Warburton or any of the other 40 odd people mentioned by bookies, Media and fans online.

    But with Lampard the gamble is that if we win he buggers off and causes us more upheaval. If we lose we're looking for another manager with no cash left at and in the lower reaches of the division. If we lose big time, we get relegated and start looking at winding up orders etc.

    Lampard is not a calculated risk, it's fuckwittery of the highest order.

    He's totally Londoncentric, as is his whole family. He views the Midlands and Derby County as way below his standards. He's already said that Chelsea is 'his club', which is in itself pretty insulting to West Ham. He sees this dropping down to scumsville as a temporary hardship in his ascendancy to glory with Chelsea.

    I keep hearing that he's a football genius. Well he wasn't even smart enough to figure out how to play successfully in the same midfield as Steven Gerrard.

    There is nothing even vaguely positive about this. We're Derby County. We don't need to be a stepping stone for some arrogant, big time Charlie to play real world Football Manager with.
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by CornwallRam on Fri 25 May 2018, 9:54 am

    Apparently Darren Wassall's odds of getting the job have plummeted over night.

    I never thought I'd even think this when drunk - but happy go Darren, go Darren, go Darren. Darren Wassall's Derby Army. Party
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by New England Ram on Fri 25 May 2018, 11:44 am

    If it’s Wassall for me that will just confirm the rumours that Mel wants out and is looking for a buyer.
    Still don’t like foreign investment in English Football but if you can’t beat em..
    And if it is Asian investment which I think it will be..I hope Mel cares enough to get us a wealthy one and not some takeaway owner from Alvo



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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by old ewe on Fri 25 May 2018, 1:32 pm

    If its Waffle people will want their Season ticket money back...................
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by SawleyRam on Fri 25 May 2018, 3:39 pm

    Well, BetVictor has suspened betting on Lampard becuase they think he's as good as got the job.

    www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/all-about/derby-county

    And who are the bookies that operate in Pride Park? Are they more privileged to sensitive information than us?
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by valakari on Fri 25 May 2018, 6:10 pm

    Whoever it is, they need to do it soon! The new manager will need as much time as possible to formulate his squad...decide how he wants to play, then get out those that don't fit..and get in some that do!
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    Re: Next Derby manager?

    Post by outsider on Fri 25 May 2018, 7:53 pm

    valakari wrote:Whoever it is, they need to do it soon! The new manager will need as much time as possible to formulate his squad...decide how he wants to play, then get out those that don't fit..and get in some that do!

    And pre season as well... any whispers?
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    Post by CornwallRam on Fri 25 May 2018, 8:26 pm

    valakari wrote:Whoever it is, they need to do it soon! The new manager will need as much time as possible to formulate his squad...decide how he wants to play, then get out those that don't fit..and get in some that do!

    Lampard won't be doing any of that. He'll be too busy working as a pundit at the World Cup.

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