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    Hull 1-2 Derby (A, Championship) reports and comments

    Post by RRC on Sat 01 Sep 2018, 5:15 pm

    Both clubs fielded very different teams from the EFL Cup game. The Rams started without Roos,
    Huddlestone, Lawrence and Marriott, who were replaced by Carson, Johnson, Bryson and Nugent.
          Carson
          Wisdom Keogh Tomori Malone
          Bryson Johnson
          Waghorn (23, pen) Mount Josefzoon (88, goal)
          Nugent
          subs--Roos Forsyth (73) Huddlestone Bird Holmes Lawrence (61) Bennett (87)
    Hull made nine changes to Tuesday's EFL Cup team.

    Unlike Tuesday, Hull started on the attack, pushing Derby back, and Keogh had to make a good block.
    The Rams soon countered, without making a shooting chance, and they began gradually to get more
    possession. Three Derby corners came to nothing as usual, as did Mount's 30-yard free kick. Mount
    found Waghorn in the box, and he was brought down, but the referee saw no penalty. Josefzoon made
    a fine run to find Nugent in the box and this time the referee was in no doubt about the foul. Waghorn
    made no mistake with the penalty on 23 minutes.



    Hull's attacks were rather scrappy, and their final balls were rarely good enough to test the Derby defence,
    though Tomori had to make two important blocks. A quick break started by Mount set Josefzoon free for a
    run, and Mount's shot from the return pass was blocked. Another fizzing shot by Mount was pushed wide
    for Derby's fifth corner and Nugent hit the bar with his header from the cross. Hull tried hard to equalize,
    and the Rams had to defend well, but the home side's best chance of the half was blasted over the bar.
    HT Hull 0-1 Derby

    The second half had a lethargic start with more free kicks than good play by either side. Nugent missed
    with a shot from a difficult angle. Hull had a couple of shots, both off target but a warning to Derby to
    wake up. The Rams didn't take the hint and on 53 minutes Hull scored with a shot from the edge of the
    box which gave Carson no chance. Nugent forced a fine save from the keeper but it was from an offside
    position. Derby, looking tired, were living dangerously and were lucky not to concede. Lawrence replaced
    Waghorn on the hour mark.



    Wisdom made a good run and cross and Derby got their eighth corner. Hull were making a very promising
    attack but, lucky for the Rams, the referee pulled it back for a free kick. Derby seemed to run out of ideas
    in attack and the Hull defence were generally untroubled. Josefzoon was making a good run when he was
    stopped by a terrible, cynical foul. Derby survived another Hull attack when Carson managed to block the
    shot. Forsyth replaced Malone on 73 minutes. A bad tackle by Tomori earned hiim a yellow card, and gave
    Hull a free kick in a dangerous area, but Carson fielded the cross.



    Derby were wobbling defensively and the home side won more corners. The Rams were too slow and
    negative when in possession and kept losing the ball in midfield. Bennett came on for Nugent on 87
    minutes with Lawrence moving into the middle. A minute later, Bennett drove to the bye-line and centred
    the ball. Mount dummied it and Josefzoon scored, his third goal against Hull this week, to re-take the lead
    on 88 minutes. Johnson made a great block to deny Hull at the death.
    FT Hull 1-2 Derby

    Derby made it four wins in a row but it was a very close call. The win takes them up to fourth, just below
    Sheffield United on goal difference and two points behind Leeds and Middlesbrough.



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    Re: Hull 1-2 Derby (A, Championship) reports and comments

    Post by outsider on Sat 01 Sep 2018, 5:27 pm

    Think we deserved it over 90mins the 30min after the break we looked nervous as hull pressed.

    Overall the performances, passing and confidence is getting better each week. Well pleased with being 4 and on it international break... im off to Denmark with Lawrence ledley and Wilson 

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    Post by Stockport Ram on Sat 01 Sep 2018, 6:14 pm

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    Re: Hull 1-2 Derby (A, Championship) reports and comments

    Post by New England Ram on Sat 01 Sep 2018, 7:27 pm

    Two wins in less than a week against the same club..never easy.
    Let’s face it we stole plenty of games last season with 90minutes of negative shit.
    First 45 was at the very least worthy of us getting a point if not three.
    Second half not so good but credit to Hull.
    It’s turned out to be a reasonable start..not perfect but I wasn’t expecting it to be.
    Time for new players to catch up fitness wise now and injuries to heal.



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    Re: Hull 1-2 Derby (A, Championship) reports and comments

    Post by ShardlowSheep on Sat 01 Sep 2018, 8:23 pm

    The first half was very good, second half not so but still managed to get the result. Done very good performances but we looked very shaky at the back second half with Hull getting in far too easily. Tomori was imense first half but all over the place second. Great atmosphere in the away end and a great win. Took my 7 year old son to his first ever away game who had a great day
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    Re: Hull 1-2 Derby (A, Championship) reports and comments

    Post by MadAmster on Sat 01 Sep 2018, 8:45 pm

    They were good opening 10 then Derby ran the show. Should have been 3 or 4 up by HT. Most of the 2nd half they had the upper hand and we could have been 3 or 4 down. Last 1/4 of an hour we got back into it and then, on 87, Mason Bennett came on and showed spirit, effort and skill. That led to him picking up the bal in their box, confused 2 defenders and then showed strength to get to the bye line and pull the ball back for Jozefzoon to slot the winner home. His 9 minute cameo was insufficient to get the MOTM but only just.

    He will have cemented his place in the matchday squad for quite a while to come IMO.
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    Re: Hull 1-2 Derby (A, Championship) reports and comments

    Post by Mitten State Ram on Sun 02 Sep 2018, 1:39 am

    Four wins against the bottom eight. Beating the rubbish is a good start. Got some top teams coming up after the break and I think we need Davis and Hudds back, or else time-machine edition George Thorne.
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    Re: Hull 1-2 Derby (A, Championship) reports and comments

    Post by MadAmster on Sun 02 Sep 2018, 8:10 am

    Mitten State Ram wrote:Four wins against the bottom eight. Beating the rubbish is a good start. Got some top teams coming up after the break and I think we need Davis and Hudds back, or else time-machine edition George Thorne.

    Beat the bottom 12 home and away and you have 72 points and you are 99% certain to be in the playoffs. You do not necessarily have to get anything from a top 12 side.
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    Re: Hull 1-2 Derby (A, Championship) reports and comments

    Post by bramhallram on Mon 03 Sep 2018, 2:29 pm

    I felt we rode our luck to get three points against Hull. We were under the cosh for much of the second half and better strikers than Hull have would surely have punished us.

    Don't get me wrong, a win is a win and I'm very pleased with the result, but until we find a way of controlling midfield we're going to struggle against the better sides (as we did against Leeds).

    Huddlestone seems to be the obvious choice for this role, providing he has a couple of lads with a bit of pace alongside him. It will be interesting to see how FL tries to solve the problem.

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    Re: Hull 1-2 Derby (A, Championship) reports and comments

    Post by MadAmster on Mon 03 Sep 2018, 3:55 pm

    bramhallram wrote:I felt we rode our luck to get three points against Hull. We were under the cosh for much of the second half and better strikers than Hull have would surely have punished us.

    Don't get me wrong, a win is a win and I'm very pleased with the result, but until we find a way of controlling midfield we're going to struggle against the better sides (as we did against Leeds).

    Huddlestone seems to be the obvious choice for this role, providing he has a couple of lads with a bit of pace alongside him. It will be interesting to see how FL tries to solve the problem.

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    Tale of 2 halves Bram. They had a decent opening 10 and then it was all Derby first half. Game should have over by then. 2nd half was all them for 30 minutes then we got back into it so 1-1 or some sort of draw was the right score at that point. That man Bennett came on and did the business.

    Neither set of forwards were on their A game or it might have been 4-5 or thereabouts.
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    Re: Hull 1-2 Derby (A, Championship) reports and comments

    Post by Mitten State Ram on Wed 05 Sep 2018, 4:53 pm

    Fairly few teams are promoted from this division without their making a habit of consistently winning matches in which a fair argument can be made that they scarcely deserved all three points. Some waltz to promotion with beautiful football (Leicester, Newcastle, Wolves recently), most are more like Cardiff last year.

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