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    MadAmster

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    How to extend the transfer window

    Post by MadAmster on Thu 06 Sep 2018, 8:12 am

    It seems there is a "legal" way to extend a transfer window. The question is should this be investigated by the FA and/or EFL and action taken if deemed necessary?

    It seems the huggers of trees wanted to sign Panagiotis Tachtsidis from Olympiacos. The deal wasn't completed in time for the transfer to go through in this window. Fortunately for the Red Dogs, the 2 clubs have one and the same owner, Evangelos Marinakis. Now, where there is a will, there is a way. Marinakis found that way. He cancelled the lad's Olympiacos contract which made him a free agent. That meant that our near neighbours could sign him immediately rather than having to wait until January..........

    You could say, shrewd move. You could also say it is downright cheating made possible by an accident of ownership.

    My opinion is that this move is definitely against the spirit of the game and should be looked at by FA/EFL.
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    Re: How to extend the transfer window

    Post by Loughborough Ram on Thu 06 Sep 2018, 8:29 am

    Luckily they only buy sh*t foreigners so there's no need to worry. Having said that there maybe laws against this in the ffp rules because this is avoiding paying market value for a player which is surely the same principle as an owner plowing money into a club and calling it sponsorship.
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    Re: How to extend the transfer window

    Post by thatguyfromderby on Thu 06 Sep 2018, 8:59 am

    Some rumours floating around that they might be looking to do this with 1 or 2 others.. possibly including Yaya Toure. Surely it would need to be looked at if this is not an isolated case.
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    Re: How to extend the transfer window

    Post by SawleyRam on Thu 06 Sep 2018, 9:59 am

    As I said in another thread, "Unfortunately, (and with no racial overtones) these clubs with foreign investors come from a different culture from our "British sense of fair play". The majority see it as a win at all cost and to maximise profits."

    This particular move emphasizes that statement with these foreign multi-millionaires bending (and perhaps breaking the rules) in order to hopefully line their own pockets with a promotion into the gold paved streets of the Premier League. Our football has now officially gone to the dogs.

    Our only gratification is that this has happened down the road and it will all end in tears! LOL
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    Re: How to extend the transfer window

    Post by Loughborough Ram on Thu 06 Sep 2018, 2:49 pm

    Surely in the great scheme of things this has a bigger threat than just trying to progress a lost cause of a lower league English football club, this surely is akin to international money laundering. If he is turning greek euros into english pounds sterling without any tax implications or exchange rate fluctuations, isn't this on the fringes of illegality?
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    Re: How to extend the transfer window

    Post by MadAmster on Thu 06 Sep 2018, 7:14 pm

    Loughborough Ram wrote:Surely in the great scheme of things this has a bigger threat than just trying to progress a lost cause of a lower league English football club, this surely is akin to international money laundering. If he is turning greek euros into english pounds sterling without any tax implications or exchange rate fluctuations, isn't this on the fringes of illegality?

    Surely he has turned absolutely no Euros into a potential multi million pound sale. Good for the Red Dogs but not for Olympiacos.
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    Re: How to extend the transfer window

    Post by CornwallRam on Fri 07 Sep 2018, 12:27 am

    On this occasion I have no problem with Florist pulling holes in the stupid transfer window system. The whole thing needs scrapping.

    It puts all the power in the hands of agents as clubs have huge pressure to bring in players early on. That inflates fees and wages.

    It also drives the stockpiling of players. Clubs need big squads to cover all eventualities outside the window. If they could just bring in a new player to cover injury or loss of form, squads could be far smaller. That would spread the available talent far further. Talented young English players wouldn't sit on Chelsea's books for six years, they'd be catching the eye's on bigger clubs whilst firing Scunthorpe to promotion. Talented but out of favour players like Chris Martin wouldn't languish at Derby for a couple of seasons. They'd be gone within a week of being told that their faces didn't fit.

    I can see no benefit at all in transfer windows.
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    Re: How to extend the transfer window

    Post by rob on Fri 07 Sep 2018, 12:40 pm

    I am amazed no club has challenged this in the courts as restraint of trade
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    Re: How to extend the transfer window

    Post by Rams bottom on Fri 07 Sep 2018, 1:17 pm

    Probably because every other club would do the same thing if they could!
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    Re: How to extend the transfer window

    Post by SawleyRam on Fri 07 Sep 2018, 2:13 pm

    rob wrote:I am amazed no club has challenged this in the courts as restraint of trade

    Quite simply they cannot, the window was introduced in response to negotiations with the European Commission. The system has been used in many European leagues before being brought into compulsory effect by FIFA during the 2002–03 season. English football was initially behind the plans when they were proposed in the early 1990s, in the hope that it would improve teams' stability and prevent agents from searching for deals all year around, but by the time it was eventually introduced they had to be persuaded that it would work. However, the exact regulations and possible exceptions are established by each competition's governing body rather than by the national football association. (With thanks to Wikipedia.)

    It seems to be a poorly drafted rule leaving many loopholes to be exploited that the less than scrupulous are keen to do so in order to move ahead of the more honest. There is no law saying that others have to enter the "spirit"of it all therefore leaving it an uneven financial playing field.

    Now it really does seem to be  "I've got more money than you, so what are you going to do about it?"

    The answer from the governing body (FIFA) is loud and clear..................................NOTHING.

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