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    Cricket Questions

    Post by Calif_Ramette on Sat 02 Apr 2011, 11:37 pm

    Ok I got so bored last night I watched a T Twenty Cricket match. I was wondering what is the difference between 20 Cricket and regular cricket, why the bowlers have to get a running start to throw the ball and what are the ways batsmen can get out. I am guessing by either having a ball they hit caught like American baseball or swinging and missing a ball and having it hit the stumpy thingy's. When do you know its time to switch and let the other team bat and why does it take so darn long to finish a match.

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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by Pearson's Right Foot on Sun 03 Apr 2011, 12:16 am

    T20 cricket is 20 overs per side whereas Test ('normal') cricket is unlimited (until 10 wickets fall or 4/5 days pass). An over is 6 deliveries so 120 bowls in total. There are also other fielding restrictions making it seemingly easier for the batting side to score boundaries.

    A running start gives them more momentum so they can generate more force and speed on the delivery.

    You can be caught out or bowled out as mentioned. Additionally you can be caught 'lbw' (leg before wicket). This is where the ball hits your leg, misses your bat and it is deemed by the umpire that without the illegal blocking with the leg, you would have been bowled. You can also be run out (if they throw the ball at the stumps before you get there when you are running in between them)

    You switch in T20 after 20 overs or when 10 wickets are lost. If you are out, your team have lost a wicket. In Test cricket, you switch when 10 wickets are lost unless you 'declare' (you stop your innings to let the other team bat with the aim of bowling them out - only when you have already achieved a really high target).

    It takes so long because the excitement comes from the build-up of pressure and that is why Test Cricket is the most exciting.

    I hope this answers your questions :P Shame you just missed the World Cup!!


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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by Calif_Ramette on Sun 03 Apr 2011, 1:01 am

    Cheers! I can get some cricket on ESPN 3 from my xbox and watched the Carribean T Twenty Championship. I think Aussies v someone else is on now I might check out.

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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by Venice Ram on Sun 03 Apr 2011, 1:02 am

    Calif,

    as someone who is familiar with both baseball and cricket, can I suggest that you stick with baseball, and do not try to understand cricket. It's ironic that cricket has had to resort to a baseball style format, to make it attractive to the masses.

    The reason for the run up is to generate power / speed. A bowler is not allowed to bend the elbow, or effectively throw the ball. It has to be delivered with a straight arm.
    Try to imagine a pitcher standing on the mound, and delivering the ball with a straight arm.

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    Post by rjrules71 on Sun 03 Apr 2011, 6:21 am

    Cali

    I will keep this simple any game played with a bat and ball
    ie Baseball (uk rounders) or cricket, is for girls or cissy boys that dont like contact sport. :
    They are basically games, like scrabble.

    Football or rugby (US American Football) are the only truly mens sports.

    Hope this helps


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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by Li 150 on Sun 03 Apr 2011, 8:47 am

    You have two sides, one out in the field and one in.



    Each man that's in the side that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he's out.



    When they are all out, the side that's out comes in and the side thats
    been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you
    get men still in and not out.



    When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out,
    and when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in.



    There are two men called umpires who stay all out all the time and they decide when the men who are in are out.



    When both sides have been in and all the men have out, and both sides
    have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who
    are not out, that is the end of the game!


    Simples


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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by New England Ram on Sun 03 Apr 2011, 11:52 am

    Is this thread over yet?


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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by Li 150 on Sun 03 Apr 2011, 11:55 am

    Want to have a spot bet it isn't?


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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by New England Ram on Sun 03 Apr 2011, 12:02 pm

    I only have FOUR quid.


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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by darthdmun on Sun 03 Apr 2011, 12:24 pm

    well thats just over SIX dollars NER.

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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by Li 150 on Sun 03 Apr 2011, 12:40 pm

    you're talking like men with no balls
    o


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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by New England Ram on Sun 03 Apr 2011, 12:48 pm

    Your wide of the mark there Li.
    In fact you are pushing the boundaries .


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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by AlvoRAM on Sun 03 Apr 2011, 12:49 pm

    darthdmun wrote:well thats just over SIX dollars NER.


    How long did it take you to work that OUT?

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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by New England Ram on Sun 03 Apr 2011, 12:56 pm

    He did it during tea.


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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by RRC on Sun 03 Apr 2011, 1:08 pm

    Cal, T20 is the shortest form of cricket - it only takes about 3 1/2 hours to play.

    One Day matches are 40 or 50 overs a side and take 6 or 8 hours to play.
    County Cricket matches are played over 4 days of 6 hours - each team has 2 innings.
    Test Matches (internationals), by far the best form of cricket, are 5 days of 6 hours - again each team has 2 innings.

    Up to 1939, Test Matches were "timeless" - they took as long as was needed.
    The 5th England tour match against South Africa in 1939 was longest ever Test Match played, ending after 9 days (one day was lost to rain).
    The teams had to agree a draw because the England team had to catch the boat home from South Africa.
    England's 4th innings stood at 654 runs for 5 wickets (they needed 42 more runs to win) at the close of play.


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    Post by Li 150 on Sun 03 Apr 2011, 3:19 pm

    well that stumped me


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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by rammie65 on Sun 03 Apr 2011, 6:28 pm

    Calif_Ramette wrote:Ok I got so bored last night I watched a T Twenty Cricket match. I was wondering what is the difference between 20 Cricket and regular cricket, why the bowlers have to get a running start to throw the ball and what are the ways batsmen can get out. I am guessing by either having a ball they hit caught like American baseball or swinging and missing a ball and having it hit the stumpy thingy's. When do you know its time to switch and let the other team bat and why does it take so darn long to finish a match.

    Just go on wicketpedia. It should tell you all you want to know about the game. Rolling Eyes

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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by Igor-is-god on Mon 04 Apr 2011, 8:29 am

    Pearson's Right Foot wrote:T20 cricket is 20 overs per side whereas Test ('normal') cricket is unlimited (until 10 wickets fall or 4/5 days pass). An over is 6 deliveries so 120 bowls in total. There are also other fielding restrictions making it seemingly easier for the batting side to score boundaries.

    A running start gives them more momentum so they can generate more force and speed on the delivery.

    You can be caught out or bowled out as mentioned. Additionally you can be caught 'lbw' (leg before wicket). This is where the ball hits your leg, misses your bat and it is deemed by the umpire that without the illegal blocking with the leg, you would have been bowled. You can also be run out (if they throw the ball at the stumps before you get there when you are running in between them)

    You switch in T20 after 20 overs or when 10 wickets are lost. If you are out, your team have lost a wicket. In Test cricket, you switch when 10 wickets are lost unless you 'declare' (you stop your innings to let the other team bat with the aim of bowling them out - only when you have already achieved a really high target).

    It takes so long because the excitement comes from the build-up of pressure and that is why Test Cricket is the most exciting.

    I hope this answers your questions :P Shame you just missed the World Cup!!


    Welcome to the game Cali. For those of us who aren't Neanderthal, cricket isn't so much a game as a way of life. What is quite refreshing is that when cricketers are interviewed they appear to have the power of speech although everyone in the England team has it their contract that they have to say "look" at least twice in every sentence which I don't understand.

    Look, let's be complete, there are other methods of dismissal that my learned colleague left out.

    Timed out: basically if you don't show up in the middle with all your kit attached to your personage within 3 minutes that's your lot, you are out. This virtually never gets applied.

    Hit wicket: If the batsman or any part of his equipment breaks the stumpy things he's out. Like this for instance where West Indian paceman Bravo breaks out the Red Stripe and despatches KP with a snorting bouncer.



    Obstructing the field: Trying to prevent the fielders from getting to the ball or intentionally obstructing a throw from reaching it's intended . Most famous recent incident is this one by Inzi



    If he had just turned his back on it and let it hit him no umpire in the world would have given him out even though he would have been essentially doing the same thing.

    Handled the ball: Here is the fine batsman Graham Gooch capably demonstrating said method.



    Interesting point, if he had used his bat...perfectly legal... which is interesting because...

    Hit the ball twice: Only really applicable if the batsman is trying to gain a run by doing so, if he is defending his wicket it is legal to hit the ball twice or indeed thrice.

    Stumped: Like this, it's beautiful when done properly. Sanga does for Lara - shit quality video







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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by darthdmun on Mon 04 Apr 2011, 9:42 am

    did you ever play for Wirksworth Igor?

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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by Igor-is-god on Mon 04 Apr 2011, 10:44 am

    darthdmun wrote:did you ever play for Wirksworth Igor?


    Yes mate, we won the U18s county cup & league championship - great team Andy Pearce, Will Davies (who also played for DCFC) Dale Humpheries, that mob. I also a couple of decent seasons for their seniors but I play for Cromford now, have done for years.


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    Post by darthdmun on Mon 04 Apr 2011, 11:03 am

    i thought you did, i was sad to here Ken died a few years back, god he lived and breathed that club.

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    Post by Igor-is-god on Mon 04 Apr 2011, 11:30 am

    Yeah Ken was a top fella assssususu lol! There are a few people with money running it now and they are a bunch of fishcakes.


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    Re: Cricket Questions

    Post by Loughborough Ram on Thu 14 Apr 2011, 12:47 pm

    I have a question.

    Today at lunch Leicester were 99 for 5, a good morning for Derbyshire. They scored their runs off 29.1 overs but the lunch interval could not have been called after the fall of a wicket, which often accounts for a part of an over having been bowled, because Palladino who only took the first wicket was attributed the .1.

    Can anybody explain why lunch was taken part way through an over because bad weather doesn't seem to be an issue, if anything it seems to be brightening up.

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    Post by RRC on Thu 14 Apr 2011, 1:00 pm

    I'd like to know the answer to that too - it seems to be a recent thing.

    Why should any break (lunch, tea or drinks) be taken part way through an over?

    The break seems to give an advantage to the batting side, since no batsman wants to come in
    to face a few balls before a break against a bowler who is chuffed from taking a wicket.


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    Post by Pearson's Right Foot on Thu 14 Apr 2011, 1:56 pm

    Their mum told them their lunch was on the table? Maybe they were just hungry, other than that, no idea.


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